[Peace-discuss] Re: 9/11 Conspiracy

[Karen Medina]

A few weeks ago, at an AWARE meeting, Dr. Sachi Kuhananthan suggested a showing of "9/11 Press for Truth".

I think we should do it.

-karen medina

---- Original message ----
>Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:10:23 -0600
>From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>  
>Subject: [Peace-discuss] Re: 9/11 Conspiracy  
>To: Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>
>"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to 
>worry about answers." — Thomas Pynchon
>
>Of course the truth of an assertion does not depend on the motives of 
>those who hold it, but I do think that there's something quite 
>comforting about conspiracism.  If our problems stem principally from 
>the activities of a little group of evil men (the CIA, the neocons, the 
>Illuminati, the Bilderbergers, the international bankers, the Jews, 
>etc.), then the solution seems clear: find those people and shoot them.
>
>Results of field tests of this theory over the last century or so have 
>been indifferent at best, however.  It is far less comforting but 
>probably more accurate to assume that the horrors we face are the result 
>of what we have done and what we have failed to do politically.  Here 
>again it's practically a species of conspiracism to say that it's the 
>fault of the Bush administration, and if we can just get a Democrat 
>elected president in 2008 (Clinton? Obama?) everything will be OK.
>
>Cockburn, Chomsky and others find the preoccupation with conspiracism 
>distracting from political organization against what the Republicans and 
>Democrats are doing, and that seems right to me.  You obviously wouldn't 
>reject an accurate analysis because the analyst seems to you to have an 
>undue "sense of righteousness."  The question is, Is he right?
>
>The shocking new development seems to be that, even though a majority of 
>Americans are convinced that the USG is following a wrong policy in the 
>Middle East, that policy continues -- the killing for which we're 
>responsible continues -- and preparations for an attack on Iran are put 
>in place.  We should be talking about what is to be done.  --CGE
>
>
>Morton K. Brussel wrote:
>> Cockburn seems as obsessed with conspiracy advocates—if that's what they 
>> are—as (he claims the) conspiracists(?) are obsessed with 9/11. Too 
>> frequently, he sounds off balance, as in the Counterpunch article. 
>> 
>> I don't believe that 9/11 was a grand conspiracy (by Americans), but yet 
>> I don't believe everything the government revealed (or not) pertaining 
>> to that event. There should have been a better investigation, answering 
>> more questions, but the commission did not want to overly embarrass or 
>> criticize the administration. 
>> 
>> Finally, conspiracies do happen, and people who are suspicious in this 
>> age and nation about what is going on should be respected. What is 
>> especially irritating  (to me) about Cockburn, whose articles I often 
>> respect,  is his arrogant sense of righteousness. His comments about 
>> lack of anti-war activity are dismissible and distasteful. What did he 
>> want the anti-war folks to do, take up arms, storm the 
>> Bastille/Pentagon? Would he lead the charge?
>> 
>> --mkb
>> 
>> On Jan 18, 2007, at 9:33 PM, Chuck Minne wrote:
>> 
>>> If you can swallow that, why not go for the whole enchilada here?:
>>>  
>>> http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn11282006.html
>>>  
>>>  
>>> I have several copies of
>>>  
>>> which I will send free to anyone who wants to email me off list.
>>>
>>>
>>> */"C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu <mailto:galliher at uiuc.edu>>/* 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     See Manuel Garcia, Jr., "Dark Fire: The Fall of WTC 7," Counterpunch,
>>>     November 28, 2006 .
>>>
>>>     Chuck Minne wrote:
>>>     >
>>>     > *Before you call 9/11 conspiracy nuts crazy, explain what
>>>     happened to 7
>>>     > World Trade Center (WTC7) and how it was accomplished. (Never
>>>     heard of
>>>     > WTC7 before, have you? – that’s not surprising, it’s the camel
>>>     in the
>>>     > tent that everybody ignores.)*
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