[Peace-discuss] Provoking war with Iran?

[Chas. 'Mark' Bee]

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To: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Provoking war with Iran?


> While I don't like some of Buchannan's Goldwater tendencies---ie) 
> xenophobia and reactionary cultural
> conservatism that is tinged with some racism, his assessment of U.S. 
> foreign policy couched in his
> scholarly knowledge of American history is usually quite good.  If 
> Buchannan is right, the disaster in the
> Middle East is about to spiral out of control.  Let's hope somebody stops 
> Cheney and whoever thinks
> similarly with regards to U.S. policy towards Iran.
>
>             Nick
>
>
> ----------------------  Original Message:  ---------------------
> From:    "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
> To:      Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Provoking war with Iran?
> Date:    Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:11:01 +0000
>
>> [There's a lot wrong with this -- the US invasion of Vietnam began in
>> 1962, not 1964, and we know from Seymour Hersh's reporting that the US
>> is already conducting military operations inside Iran -- but when
>> Democratic presidential candidates are agreeing that "We must not rule
>> out using military force" against Iran (Obama), it's important to not e
>> a few protests.  --CGE]
>>
>> Tonkin Gulf II and the Guns of August?
>> By Patrick J. Buchanan
>>
>> 07/17/07 WorldNet Daily -- Is the United States provoking war with Iran,
>> to begin while the Congress is conveniently on its August recess?
>>
>> One recalls that it was in August 1964, after the Republicans nominated
>> Barry Goldwater, that the Tonkin Gulf incident occurred.
>>
>> Twice it was said, on Aug. 2 and Aug. 4, North Vietnamese patrol boats
>> had attacked the U.S. destroyers Maddox and Turner Joy in international
>> waters. The U.S. Senate responded by voting 88 to 2 to authorize
>> President Johnson to assist any Southeast Asian nation whose government
>> was threatened by communist aggression.
>>
>> The bombing of the North began, followed by the arrival of U.S. Marines.
>> America's war was on.
>>
>> As Congress prepares for its August recess, the probability of U.S. air
>> strikes on Iran rises with each week. A third carrier, the USS
>> Enterprise, and its battle group is joining the Nimitz and Stennis in
>> the largest concentration of U.S. naval power ever off the coast of Iran.
>>
>> And Tonkin Gulf II may have already occurred.
>>
>> In Baghdad, on July 1, Gen. Kevin J. Bergner charged that Iranians
>> planned the January raid in Karbala, using commandos in American-style
>> uniforms, that resulted in the death of five U.S. soldiers.
>>
>> As the New York Times reports, this "marks the first time that the
>> United States has charged that Iranian officials have helped plan
>> operations against American troops in Iraq and have had advance
>> knowledge of specific attacks that have led to the death of American
>> soldiers."
>>
>> The Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards is using Hezbollah to
>> train Shiites to attack our soldiers and providing them with enhanced
>> IEDs that have killed scores of U.S. troops, Bergner charged. He says we
>> have captured a veteran Hezbollah agent and documents pointing to direct
>> Iranian complicity in the Karbala raid.
>>
>> Iran has denounced the charge as "ridiculous." But the Senate has voted
>> 97-0 to censure Iran for complicity in killing the Americans.
>>
>> If what Bergner alleges is true, President Bush has not only the right
>> but appears to have the blessing of Congress to attack Iran. And he now
>> has the naval and air forces at hand. What is stopping him?
>>
>> For it is surely not Congress, which buried a resolution last spring
>> declaring that Bush must come to Congress before taking us into a new
>> war in the Middle East. Congress appears to be signaling Bush: "If you
>> want to hit Iran, you have the green light. No need to consult us."
>>
>> Is this yet another abdication by Congress of its moral and
>> constitutional duty to decide when and whether America goes to war?
>>
>> And something smells awfully fishy here.
>>
>> Iran has no interest in a war with the United States, which it seems to
>> be toying with. Iran supports the pro-American Shia regime in Baghdad.
>> And the al-Qaida umbrella group in Iraq, which is our mortal enemy, has
>> just warned Iran it faces terror attacks if it does not stop supporting
>> Shiites in Iraq.
>>
>> Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, who leads the al-Qaida group known as the Islamic
>> State in Iraq, says his fighters have been preparing for four years for
>> war on Iran:


  Isn't that the guy who was just discovered to be a fictitious character? 
=)

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Abu+Omar+al-Baghdadi+actor&btnG=Search