[Peace-discuss] Urbana CPRB on Council agenda Mon July 23

[Ricky Baldwin]

Folks interested in the substantive issue of citizen
oversight of their government (I believe it's called
democracy) might want to know:

A revised proposal for police review in Urbana is
slotted for the agenda this coming Monday night.  

The proposal should be on the City's website soon --
http://www.city.urbana.il.us, I'm told.

See you there!
Ricky


--- Robert Dunn <prorobert8 at hotmail.com> wrote:


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This is my hometown john. I was born in Carle Hospital
on May 19, 1982, i forgot what floor it was! I went to
Wiley Elementary School on the corner of Anderson and
Pennsylvania Ave. I remember when Lincoln Square and
the Sunnycrest area were thriving with businesses and
shops. I remember the old Elite Diner and Dunkin
Donuts where some old timers were sitting there every
day sipping coffee and chainsmoking! Of course, now
that is illegal in Urbana to chainsmoke inside, thanks
to the lefties on the Council! I went to the hellhole
called Urbana Middle School and survived that. Finally
i went to Urbana High School and graduated in 2000. It
was then that i met you guys. I remember walking to
Lincoln Square and playing video games in the arcade
there. That is now gone. You see, i have roots here.
Most people on the city council do not have roots or
history here. It seems that those who were born and
bred here have more commonsense than the outsiders who
come to this area. That includes Champaign as well.



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From: "John W." <jbw292002 at gmail.com>
To: "Robert Dunn"
<prorobert8 at hotmail.com>,peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net,
cprb at lists.chambana.net,caevans2 at hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [CPRB] RE: [Peace-discuss] CPRB
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:51:11 -0500

At 11:35 AM 7/18/2007, Robert Dunn wrote:

i just received word from the Chief of Police of Iowa
City.

I was wrong about my predictions. However, i am still
against this because where the source of this idea
came from. By the way, Richmond and Berzerkeley do
have high crime rates, but their CPRB has nothing to
do with it. Other lefty initiatives such as making the
areas so anti-business plus declaring being homeless a
Constitutional right, contributes to a very unpleasant
environment. So, i admit i was wrong, however, i am
still on record as opposing this, because i and you
know that the CPRB is not the end, but the beginning
of the trend to make this city so unbearable that
middle class residents will leave, thus entrenching
the Left permanantly in power! Or do we stay and
fight. I think why Mr. Smyth was so testy was because
i reminded him that his seat should not be taken for
granted! 

Urbana must be returned to its residents, and not some
group of extremists out of the UCIMC! As someone born
and bred here, outsiders have come in and plundered
our inheritance, its time to take it back before
nothing is left!

Robert Dunn

Founder of Take Back Urbana!

I'm curious why you came back to such a hellhole in
the first place, Rob.  You must be on a Mission from
God.






   From:  Esther Patt <epatt at uiuc.edu>

   To:  "John W." <jbw292002 at gmail.com>, Robert Dunn
<prorobert8 at hotmail.com>,
peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net,
cprb at lists.chambana.net

   Subject:  Re: [CPRB] RE: [Peace-discuss] CPRB

   Date:  Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:08:44 -0500 (CDT)


   >It's always amusing, when Urbana proposes adopting
something that already exists in dozens of communities
around the country, that opponents step forward to
assert that the sky will surely fall if Urbana takes
the unprecedented step of doing anything new.  Whether
it was creating a city-wide recycling program,
adopting an Historic Preservation Ordinance, adopting
an anti-war resolution, implementing rental
registration for apartments -- our city was a
late-comer to a national trend but opponents
threatened horrible consequences.  Robert Dunn's claim
that the crime rate will sky-rocket if the city
creates a Police Review Board  is just plain silly. 
The real experiences of dozens of communities through
the nation refute Robert's claim.

   >

   >By the way:

   >

   >The Fraternal Order of Police fundraises the money
for Shop with a Cop.  I think it's a good program and
donate to it, but wanted Robert and others to know
that the program is not about police officers spending
their own money to buy things for low-income children
(although I don't doubt there are officers who donate
to the fund).  But the money is raised by the FOP --
primarily by their calling people like all of us and
asking for donations.  Then the officers go shopping
with the children for "holiday" presents, using the
money raised in the community.  Community members are
needed to accompany the officers and kids on the
shopping trip and to help the children wrap the
presents they buy.

   >

   >Esther Patt 



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