[Peace] Re: [Peace-discuss] Re: misgivings on Iraq War: A Four YearReflection

[Ricky Baldwin]

Matt's right, you know, this fits "peace-discuss", not
"peace", and certainly not both.

A lot of people are on both, but some are not, and
over the years folks have asked very respectfully if
we could keep discussion off the "peace" list, which
is for announcements and meeting minutes...

And I've tried to trim off some repeats, too, where I
was sure...

Thanks!
Ricky

--- lsteinbe at uiuc.edu wrote:

> Does Iraq have a flag? Paul Bremmer made one up
> early on after the invasion 
> that was blue and white, the same colors as the
> Israeli flag. Needless to say, this 
> didn't last long.
> 
> Aloha,
> Lois Steinberg
> 
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:30:11 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Chuck Minne <mincam2 at yahoo.com>  
> >Subject: [Peace] Re: [Peace-discuss] Re: misgivings
> on Iraq War: A Four Year 
> Reflection  
> >To: Pete Rhomberg <rhomberger3000 at gmail.com>,
> msmith46 at uiuc.edu
> >Cc: akaplan3 at law.uiuc.edu, codybralts at gmail.com,
> pmcguir3 at uiuc.edu, Kevin 
> Hartman <khartma1 at gmail.com>, enslin.mark at gmail.com,
> 
> clairewang002 at gmail.com, coalition at iresist.org,
> lale at uiuc.edu, Peace Discuss 
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>,
> esbenshd at uni.uiuc.edu, 
> mmarti46 at uiuc.edu, azimmer2 at uiuc.edu, Peace List 
> <peace at lists.chambana.net>, Tom Abram
> <tabram at gmail.com>, 
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> wyatt2 at uiuc.edu, ccalvey2 at uiuc.edu,
> jtmiller at ad.uiuc.edu, 
> nich.shoom at gmail.com, mukta_tripathy at yahoo.com,
> miebach2 at uiuc.edu, 
> cajindos at uiuc.edu, eesch at uiuc.edu, Thomas Ayala
> <ayalat at uiuc.edu>, 
> cge at shout.net, Christopher Dressel
> <cdresse2 at uiuc.edu>, Eric Uskali 
> <euskali2 at uiuc.edu>
> >
> >   This seems like a nice idea to me. What is the
> death
> >   ratio? Something like 100,000 to 3,000 or 100 to
> 3?
> >   I’m sure that Iraqi flags are hard to come by,
> >   especially tiny ones, but I could imagine a
> display
> >   or poster exhibiting 97 Iraqi flags and three US
> >   flags along with the explanation that while it
> would
> >   be impossible for a flag to be displayed for
> each
> >   victim of the war, this was the symbolic
> proportion
> >   of all those that should be mourned – or
> something
> >   like that.
> >
> >   Pete Rhomberg <rhomberger3000 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >     Something that seems to have been forgotten in
> >     this debate is one of the
> >     options that Martin proposed, and which I am
> >     highly in favor of, namely
> >     representing the Iraqi dead. While procuring
> over
> >     650,000 Iraqis flags
> >     would be an unreasonable burden on any group
> or
> >     coalition, I feel that
> >     if an alternative to American flags is not
> decided
> >     on, the least we can
> >     do is add Iraqi flags to signify a certain
> number
> >     of Iraqi deaths.
> >     While the loss of American servicemen and
> women is
> >     tragic, the loss of
> >     any life is also tragic, and we cannot forget
> the
> >     tragic death of over
> >     650,000 Iraqis.
> >     -Pete Rhomberg
> >
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