[Peace-discuss] on Kucinich and Paul

[Karen Medina]

Carl,

I pick on you because you are a historian, is there a president that you did like? I'd be especially interested in comparing that person's campaign rhetoric and their deeds. 

-karen medina

---- Original message ----
>Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:47:53 -0600
>From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>  
>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] on Kucinich and Paul  
>To: kmedina at uiuc.edu
>Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>
>There's very little correlation.  Remember Bush the Less campaigned
>against the Clinton admin's "nation building."
>
>Classic case is the 1932 election, when FDR campaigned against incumbent
>Herbert Hoover in the midst of the Great Depression.  At the center of
>FDR's campaign was a promise to balance the budget, over against
>Hoover's deficit spending!
>
>Roosevelt said: "I pledge you, I pledge myself, to a new deal for the 
>American people", coining a slogan that was later adopted for his 
>legislative program as well as his new coalition.  But during the 
>campaign, it meant the opposite of what it came to mean. Roosevelt 
>campaigned on the Democratic platform advocating "immediate and drastic 
>reductions of all public expenditures" and for a "sound currency to be 
>maintained at all hazards."
>
>In some cases expediency, in others flat-out lies.  To the latter
>category belong John Kennedy's 1960 "missile gap" scare stories, which
>Kennedy knew weren't true. (But his belligerent, semi-fascist rhetoric
>was all too true and announced what was probably the most dangerous
>admin until the current one.) --CGE
>
>
>Karen Medina wrote:
>> Peace discuss,
>> 
>> Anyone know some good political science studies that look at the 
>> campaigns of presidential candidates and then the terms in office 
>> that shows what they say and what they end up doing.
>> 
>> I know we all get general impressions and there are media reports 
>> that summarize things like the first 100 days in office, but I am 
>> more interested in a deeper analysis. Can anyone suggest one?
>> 
>> With regard to Tom Mackaman's complaint that one particular person 
>> did not stand up for the peace demonstrators as they were removed 
>> from the Democratic National Convention, was there anyone who did 
>> stand up for the demonstrators? And ultimately is there anything we 
>> can say about all of those who did not defend the demonstrators?
>> 
>> Who would Ron Paul have defended?
>> 
>> -karen medina