[Peace-discuss] Fwd: Sarkozy

Laurie at advancenet.net laurie at advancenet.net
Mon Oct 8 16:59:12 CDT 2007


I do not know enough about the French political system and it recent inner
operations to comment substantively one way or another. However, I have to
wonder - being the cynic that I am said to be - if the French government and
policy makers would have been opposed to the Iraq war if the US would have
relinquished military command to them as well as allowing the French to take
the leadership in suggesting the various policies so as to pretend that it
was French and French policy such that they could have claimed French or at
least joint leadership rather than being subordinated to the US. The French
appeared to be ok with the Haiti invasion where they were allowed to appear
as if they were equal partners.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net [mailto:peace-discuss-
> bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of C. G. Estabrook
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 4:00 PM
> To: Matt Reichel
> Cc: peace-discuss at anti-war.net
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: Sarkozy
> 
> In large part because the wretchedly rightist Socialists (who were just
> as bad in Mitterand's time) threw away a winning hand.  The French
> quite
> correctly rejected the neoliberal EU constitution when the entire
> political establishment (including the Socialists) urged its passage.
> Had the Socialists embraced that expression of the popular will, they
> would have done much better against Sarko -- Napoleonic at least in
> stature -- even with a parody Clinton couple at their head. --CGE
> 
> Matt Reichel wrote:
> > I still don't quite understand how this man became president, despite
> > having been here to see it all unfold.
> > How can a country that sent a Socialist/Communist regime to the
> elysee
> > when the US and UK were descending into the pits of
> > Reaganism/Thatcherism suddenly be taking this drastic course!?
> >
> > More confusing still yet is the fact that this occurred just on the
> > heels of extraordinary grassroots action to tackle the CPE and the EU
> > Constitution.
> >
> > Still yet, my hope is that eventually political culture will get in
> the
> > way of Sarko's plans. While there are some in France that look with
> awe
> > at the sparkly, capitalist United States, most of those types have
> never
> > actually been there. They are culturally too thoughtful, worldly and
> > critical to accept the kind of market tyranny that exists in the U.S.
> > right now . . .
> >
> > -
> > mer
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