[Peace-discuss] Esther

[Randall Cotton]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wendy Edwards" <wedwards at uiuc.edu>
To: <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Esther


> I've been positively impressed by Esther, and thought that she did have
> a point in her recent letter to the editor.  Stacking a township meeting
> with supporters is a game that more than one side can play.

But this overlooks the fact that one "side" has their hands directly on
(or close to, in some cases) the levers of governmental power. That is,
people in positions of substantial governmental power and influence acted
to thwart even mere public *discussion* about matters of interest to
citizens they are supposed to serve, providing the appearance of a
ruthless, even vindictive power play for self-serving partisan interests
in a way that to me demonstrates contempt, actually, for true democracy.

R

>
> Wendy
>
> >From: "E. Wayne Johnson" <ewj at pigs.ag>
> >Date: April 21, 2008 4:01:59 PM CDT
> >To: Bob Illyes <illyes at uiuc.edu>
> >Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> >Subject: [Peace-discuss] Re: Esther
> >
> >Did they take the turkey to the Wildlife Clinic to see if it had
> >bite marks on it anywhere?
> >
> >I had 4 of the wild turkeys in my backyard one day.  I didn't
> >corner them but I did walk around them and take some
> >pictures.  I found them relatively non-threatening.  I am not sure
> >if I walked around Esther Patt with a camera at similar
> >angles that the outcome would be as favourable.
> >
> >Bob Illyes wrote:
> >>As far as I know, there is only one Esther Patt in town, Wayne.
> >>She's active in the ACLU, the UIUC Tenant's Union (which I think
> >>she founded), and was recently on the Urbana City Council.
> >>
> >>Esther was attacked by one of Urbana's wild turkeys a while back.
> >>I don't know what Esther did to provoke the turkey. The battle
> >>over wild turkey removal seems to have been a proxy war between
> >>the two major parties, with Republicans siding with the turkeys,
> >>so perhaps we have an explanation for the attack.
> >>
> >>Bob
> >>
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