[Peace-discuss] Seminar

[Marti Wilkinson]

I was at a meeting last night and a Lieutenant from the Champaign Police
Department was talking about issues that have arisen with patrolling the
neighborhood and he made the comment that often young people have been
taught by their parents and peers to not trust the police.  Even though what
happened with Brian Chesley is a travesty of the justice system it also
brings to the surface that there really needs to be better communication
between citizens and public servants.  At least in Urbana there is a
citizens review board in place, and in Champaign we need to find another way
to address citizen concerns.  While a citizens review board is ideal...I'm
not holding my breath.



On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> When a cop tells me to pull over, or airport security tells me to step out
> of line, I usually continue on my way (guardedly) until I'm sure they really
> do mean me (since I've done nothing wrong). But when I'm sure they DO mean
> me, I stop and do as they say... and I'm sure everyone on this list does too
> (if for no other reason than we know refusal to comply will not mean the
> subject is dropped). I'm a law-abiding citizen (mostly) and I've always
> assumed the police have the right to stop me if they believe something's
> amiss... but do they really?? What DO the police have a right to tell us to
> do?? And to do to us as a follow-up if we ignore them?? (Chpgn and Urbana
> police appear to be in absolute agreement). And what (if anything) do we
> have a right to ignore or refuse to do?? I'd really like to know the
> legality of this, what's really on the books.
>  --Jenifer
>
>
> *Karen Medina <kmedina at uiuc.edu>* wrote:
>
> I am more and more convinced that everything Brian did was what I would
> have done if I was being followed by thugs.
>
> -karen medina
>
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 20:59:50 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Jenifer Cartwright
> >Subject: [Peace-discuss] Seminar
> >To: Peace-discuss List
> >
> > Friends,
> > I attended a seminar on Thursday in which an
> > Urbana police officer gave a description of his
> > typical day at work.
> > One example included a incident in which he
> > observed a driver tap another bumper while parking
> > (no damage) and when the officer went to
> > "investigate," the driver (already out of the car)
> > took off running on foot. The officer chased,
> > tackled, maced, subdued, and cuffed the "suspect"
> > (sound familiar???) who, it then turned out, was in
> > CU in violation of parole. The officer was really
> > proud of his police work that day. Apparently
> > running away from a police officer is illegal in
> > Urbana, too.
> > Another example involved setting up a speed
> > trap at an intesection known to have frequent
> > accidents involving speeding (or so he said) at (I
> > think) Fairlawn Drive. The idea was to catch those
> > over the speed limit w/ expired licenses and no
> > insurance, plus -- if drivers are seen to bend down
> > (as if to stash or retrieve something under the
> > front seat), the officer was w/in his rights to
> > frisk the driver and then search the car. So if y're
> > stopped for speeding and drop a pen or earring,
> > don't pick it up until later...
> > I asked about assault weapons, gun laws, that I'd
> > heard that police were in favor of that. No, he
> > said. He didn't favor that, because that just left
> > guns in the hands of the criminal element insead of
> > in the hands of law-abiding citizens.
> > Moral: if y're a law abiding citizen, carry a gun
> > (and don't bend over).
> > --Jenifer
> >
> >
> >
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