[Peace-discuss] Chesley crime?

[Jenifer Cartwright]

Omigod, it's like something out of Brave New World or 1984, acronym and all...

Brian Dolinar <briandolinar at gmail.com> wrote:  The database is called ARMS (Area-Wide Records Management System)
and was developed with the help of the University of Illinois.

BD

  On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com> wrote:
    The database thing really sticks in my craw, the idea that that's what the Chpgn police were after from the outset, and Brian Chesley's subsequent (and ill-advised) behavior just played into their hands. I heard a panel matter-of-factly discussing it (database) on C-Span as the recommended procedure on a national level for those STOPPED by police and could not believe what I was hearing (not everyone on the panel concurred, but nobody was outraged either).
   --Jenifer
     
   
  Bob Illyes <illyes at uiuc.edu> wrote:

    
    It is easy, Shirley, to think that the Brian Chesley case makes sense, if 
each step of the process is inspected without looking at the whole. But we 
must always ask if the full means used are in proportion to the seriousness 
of the offense.

Brian was lawfully leaving scheduled park district basketball. Officer 
Davis, for reasons that have never been adequately explained, decided that 
Brian, out of all of the kids in the park at that time, should be included 
in a police database of the area, and called for reinforcements when Brian 
declined.

For this minor infraction, Brian was roughed up, arrested, charged and 
tried. This is absolutely out of proportion to the "crime".

I don't see a plan here. What I do see is that Chief Finney needs to 
tighten up procedures so that this sort of over-reaction is made a lot less 
likely than it is.

Bob

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