[Peace-discuss] Hedges: only a candidate who calls for an immediate end to the war...

[Jenifer Cartwright]

Of course Nader/those foolish enuff to vote for him enabled Bush to assume the presidency! Hopefully that won't happen again, but ya never know... Rhetoric aside, you cannot REALLY believe that Gore would have been as disastrous for the country and the world as Bush??? And (again rhetoric aside) you cannot REALLY believe that Obama would be as disatrous for the country and the world as McCain? If you can honestly answer yes to both of those, there's no point in continuing this discussion.
 --Jenifer 

--- On Fri, 8/1/08, Tom Abram <tabram at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom Abram <tabram at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Hedges: only a candidate who calls for an immediate end to the war...
To: "Neil Parthun" <lennybrucefan at gmail.com>, "E. Wayne Johnson" <ewj at pigs.ag>, "peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>, kmedina at illinois.edu
Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 11:45 AM

Another thing that infuriates me: the Green Party and Nader get
criticized for "spoiling" it for Gore, and get lectured that Gore
would have been the greenest president because of An Inconvenient
Truth.  Well, here's an inconvenient truth.  Gore was vice president
and did next to nothing to combat global warming (not to mention the
war complicity that Wayne and Neil brought up).  Why would someone
with poor credentials as an elected official be any different when
he's #1 instead of #2?  Ah, the audacity of hope.

Tom


On 8/1/08, Neil Parthun <lennybrucefan at gmail.com> wrote:
> I concur, Wayne.
>
> It was a Democratic President (and Al Gore as VP) that brought us the
> death of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis due to sanctions and cruise
> missile/bombing strikes.
>
> The idea of lesser evilism is divisive (especially amongst the left),
> disingenuous and allows such flagrant crap like this to continue.
> Neither mainstream party is going to end the war.
>
> There is only this moment,
>
>       Neil
>
>   We absolutely have to refuse to attribute any kind of permanency to
> that which is simply because it is.
> [angela v. davis, 1944-]
>
> The point is, the only real tools we have are our eyes and our heads.
> Its not the act of seeing with our own eyes alone; its correctly
> comprehending what we see.
> [warren ellis, 1968-]
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