[Peace-discuss] Fw: Support The Nadler Initiative Against The Planned Bush Blanket Pardons

Thu Dec 11 12:26:06 CST 2008

I don't think we can do so from within the system; the probabilities of
doing so from outside the system are very slim for the present.  I think
that the economy, environment, and government need to get a whole lot worse
before anything will be possible; so we probably should be contributing to
making things a whole lot worse in order to realistically stand a change of
changing thins for the better.

However, I do not see it as the social critic's job to do anything more than
analyze situations; they have no obligation to furnish solutions or courses
of action to remedy flaws and problems that their analysis suggest.  Social
criticism is analysis (taking apart to understand the working so as to
reveal strengths and weaknesses, it is not merely  being negative - although
there is rarely any reason to point out the good in social criticism since
thoswe factors are typically already known and accepted).  

From: John W. [mailto:jbw292002 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 11:27 AM
To: LAURIE SOLOMON
Cc: E. Wayne Johnson; peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net; unionyes
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Support The Nadler Initiative Against The
Planned Bush Blanket Pardons

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:13 AM, LAURIE SOLOMON <LAURIE at advancenet.net>
wrote:

I am inclined to concur with this.  I think that such an effort could only
come from either someone who has supreme confidence in the system and its
working in a just and ethical fashion and faith in the integrity of the
players or someone who is a fool.  Take your pick.  People seem to enjoy
playing Candide rather than face realities.

Dear Laurie,

Please list all of the ways in which, in your opinion, we as individuals can
realistically make a positive difference in the world.  Here, I'll get you
started:

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 From: peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net
[mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of E. Wayne
Johnson
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:49 AM
To: unionyes
Cc: Peace-discuss List
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Support The Nadler Initiative Against The
Planned Bush Blanket Pardons

Interesting.

But note that Congress had good reason to Impeach Bush and go after his
gang,
but they did not.

The most obvious reason why they did not go after Bush was that the
opposition party wanted to retain
the Anti-constitutionally broadened Executive powers, and let the aspersions
for doing that fall on Bush.

So what makes you think that all your cards and letters are going to make
the opposition party go
after Bush now that the reins of government power are falling into their
hands?  They have little
to gain by pursuing Bush at this point.

unionyes wrote: 

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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:39 AM

Subject: Support The Nadler Initiative Against The Planned Bush Blanket
Pardons

Ask Your House Member To Co-Sponsor H.Res.  1531 Against The Bush Preemptive
Pardons

Another day, another non-denial denial that Bush is planning midnight
preemptive blanket pardons for his entire gang, including himself.  In an
article in the New York Times the other day, current attorney general
Mukasey is quoted as asserting it would not be "necessary".  Please take
careful note he did not say it wouldn't happen, because unless we speak out
now it WILL.

The best shot we have is H.Res.  1531 which puts the administration on clear
notice that there will be strong push back from Congress if they attempt
such a scurrilous stunt.  Please submit this action page to ask your House
member to sign on as a co-sponsor of this measure.

Support H.Res.  1531 Action Page:  http://www.usalone.com/hres1531.php 

We all know that George Bush as someone without even the guts to face his
own music, he who sent more that four thousand brave Americans to their
senseless graves, for a premeditated and knowing lie in Iraq, tens of
thousands of American crippled and mutilated for life, trillions looted from
our economy, and he doesn't even have the simple courage to risk the
accountability of having to defend his numberless crimes in a fair trial.

It is now known that Nixon seriously considered pardoning himself, but even
he was not THAT despicable.  George Bush most certainly is.  And remember
that his administration has been infested with Nixon era cronies like Cheney
and Rumsfeld, so it is no surprise that the malfeasance of the Nixon era has
been magnified in the last eight years.

Nixon infamously said, "If the president does it that means it is not
illegal", conveniently after his own blanket pardon by the way.  That has
been their creed.  The entire Bush administration has been one ongoing
criminal enterprise since day one, a wrecking ball to the Constitution and
rule of law, with torture, illegal surveillance, obstruction and perversion
of justice in the firing of U.S.  attorneys, not to mention national level
election fraud, the naked treason of outing Valerie Plame, and on and on.

And the only way we can make sure nothing like this EVER happens again is to
demand full accountability, so that all America truly understands what a
miserable, lying, cowardly creep we were so foolish as to allow get away
with stealing two successive presidential elections.

Please call on your members of Congress to immediately sign on to H.Res.
1531, and let's have a real national debate on the coming greatest outrage
of all, before they get away with that too.

Support H.Res.  1531 Action Page:  http://www.usalone.com/hres1531.php 

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Please take action NOW, so we can win all victories that are supposed to be
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