[Peace-discuss] Limits of allowable debate
LAURIE SOLOMON
LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET
Wed Dec 31 15:40:09 CST 2008
>["It's not what you do / But the way that you do it," sing liberal
pro-Israel
>groups. In fact these groups are observing Chomsky's maxim: "The smart way
to
>keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of
acceptable
>opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - even encourage
the
>more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's
free
>thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are
>being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate." --CGE]
Funny; but that seems to apply to most if not all areas of human behavior
and conduct whatever the enterprise, topic, or issue. It can be said about
science, about academia, about social organizations, about activist groups,
and about the arts. Even you practice and abide by it in your everyday
life, in your political life, and even on this list.
Having noted that, I will say that there is nothing wrong in pointing it out
when and wherever it takes place as well as describing what those limits are
for a given enterprise; where one goes astray is when one believes that
there are areas and undertakings where it is not the rule or norm. Yes
every such context will have its occasional breaks from the norm; we call
those breaks "revolutions." It is what Thomas Kuhn describes in his
relatively old book, The Scientific Revolution, with respect to the
enterprise of science. The arts are no different; so why would one be
surprised to find it true of organized socio-political and economic
behaviors. Those who tend to break the boundaries on a consistent and
regular basis are considered crazy, nut cases who belong in and usually are
put in an insane asylum if they become too rambunctious; otherwise they are
ostracized and drummed out of the community or otherwise not allowed to
participate in the debate in any meaningful way.
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Subject: [Peace-discuss] Limits of allowable debate
["It's not what you do / But the way that you do it," sing liberal
pro-Israel
groups. In fact these groups are observing Chomsky's maxim: "The smart way
to
keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of
acceptable
opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum - even encourage
the
more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's
free
thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are
being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate." --CGE]
Will Obama, lawmakers listen to liberal pro-Israel groups'
criticism of Gaza operation?
By Eric Fingerhut . December 30, 2008
WASHINGTON (JTA) -- In the first sign of a post-election struggle to set the
American Jewish community's Middle East agenda, a quartet of liberal
pro-Israel
advocacy groups is criticizing Jerusalem's decision to launch retaliatory
attacks against Gaza.
J Street, Americans for Peace Now, Brit Tzedek v'Shalom and the Israel
Policy
Forum all issued statements defending Israel's right to strike Hamas
installations in Gaza but saying, with varying degrees of forcefulness, that
such actions will be counterproductive and damage Israel's security in the
long
run. In their statements, they called for intervention by the United States
and
the international community to restore a cease-fire between Israel and
Hamas.
In addition to issuing a statement, J Street organized a petition that calls
for
"immediate and strong U.S.-led diplomatic efforts to urgently reinstate a
meaningful ceasefire that ends all military operations, stops the rockets
aimed
at Israel and lifts the blockade of Gaza." The organization's online
director,
Isaac Luria, sent out a message Tuesday saying that J Street was already
citing
the 14,000 signatures collected as of Tuesday in conversations with
President-elect Obama's transition team and Congress.
Two days earlier Luria sent an e-mail message under the heading "Gaza: Stop
the
Violence," in which he started out by declaring that the "Israeli Defense
Forces
struck the Gaza Strip, leaving hundreds dead and wounded -- pushing the
long-running Israeli-Palestinian conflict further down a path of
never-ending
violence." In the message, which did not mention that the bulk of
Palestinian
fatalities were Hamas militants, Luria stated that "neither Israelis nor
Palestinians have a monopoly on right or wrong," before calling on the
incoming
Obama administration to "lead an early and serious effort to achieve a
comprehensive diplomatic resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian and
Arab-Israeli
conflicts."
Representatives of J Street and the other three groups say it is difficult
to
gauge how much resonance their message is having in Washington circles,
because
Congress is in recess and the new administration is still three weeks away
from
taking office . But, according to J Street's executive director, Jeremy
Ben-Ami,
even if the groups fail to influence U.S. decision-making this time around,
speaking out is a "really important first step" in sparking a discussion in
the
Jewish community and the wider political world.
"Part of our role in this is to create that space" and "say right up front
this
is an action we're going to stand up and question," Ben-Ami told JTA. "We're
going to question whether this is the right strategy."
"This is a test to see whether there is a need and support" for that
viewpoint,
he added.
In his statement over the weekend, Ben-Ami said that " real friends of
Israel
recognize that escalating the conflict will prove counterproductive,
igniting
further anger in the region and damaging long-term prospects for peace and
stability."
The positions staked out by J Street and the other liberal groups fly in the
face of the unabashed support for Israel's Gaza operation offered by the
Jewish
community's two major public-policy umbrella groups, the Jewish Council for
Public Affairs and the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish
Organizations. Individual member groups of the two umbrella organizations
have
offered their own statements of support, as well.
J Street's immediate criticism of the Israeli strikes stood in sharp
contrast
even to the Meretz Party, a standard-bearer of the Israeli Left, which
offered
support for the initial round of attacks, before calling for a ceasefire.
Ben-Ami will have a chance to take J Street's message directly to Jewish
communal activists from across the country when they gather in Washington at
the
end of February for the annual policy plenum of the Jewish Council for
Public
Affairs. The JCPA, an umbrella organization that brings together national
Jewish
organizations, the synagogue movements and dozens of local Jewish
communities to
formulate policy positions, has invited Ben-Ami to participate in a panel
discussion on Israel advocacy.
Brit Tzedek's executive director, Diane Balser, said that she saw the
statements
as a "step" in forging "greater momentum" for a stronger alternative Jewish
voice on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. "My hope would be to coordinate
more
and more," she said, particularly with an Obama administration that is seen
as
more sympathetic to their viewpoint than the Bush administration was.
Ben-Ami, though, said he didn't think J Street and other like-minded groups
would have much impact on any kind of congressional reaction to the Hamas
operation when the House and Senate return to work next week. "I would be
shocked if what came out of Congress was anything but a ringing endorsement
of
Israel," he said, noting that in the immediate early days of a military
operation the typical and understandable reaction is strong backing of the
Jewish state.
Indeed, one of the most prominent of the 41 candidates endorsed this fall by
J
Street's political action committee, U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler (D-Fla.),
released
a statement strongly backing Israel's decision and making no mention of
American
intervention.
"It is unconscionable for anyone to expect that the Israeli government or
any
other government for that matter, to sit idly as thousands of deadly rockets
rain down on their cities and threaten the well-being and security of their
citizens," Wexler said. "I urge the international community to join the
United
States in denouncing the daily terrorist acts carried out by Hamas and
support
Israel's right to self-defense and security."
Instead, Ben-Ami said, J Street hopes to have an impact on the Middle East
debate six to 12 months down the road, via congressional and administration
action that focuses on achieving a political settlement.
The director of the Israel Policy Forum's Washington office, M.J. Rosenberg,
said the emergence of J Street could add a new dynamic to the work of dovish
pro-Israel groups.
"Because they raised money for people's campaigns, they have a different
position vis-a-vis members of Congress," he said, compared to a organization
like IPF, which focuses on providing information and lobbying.
But Rosenberg said that while seeing four groups issue somewhat similar
statements draws additional attention to their viewpoint, he downplayed a
suggestion that it represented the first salvo of a more forceful effort to
spread that message. "What we've been doing is the same," he said. "The
difference is the situation is worse" and "efforts might intensify because
this
is so bad."
Americans for Peace Now spokesman Ori Nir agreed with Rosenberg that the
recent
statements did not mark the launch of a formal campaign, adding that the
Gaza
operation was not a particularly good vehicle to start such an effort. "We
don't
view the issue of the Israeli operation as a black-and-white, clear-cut
issue,"
Nir said. "It wouldn't serve as a strong rallying cause because it is so
nuanced."
But Nir said that Americans for Peace Now was strategizing with like-minded
organizations on possible joint congressional action; he added that the
group
sent out an action alert to more than 10,000 activists urging them to write
to
President Bush and President-elect Obama on the issue. "We're reminding
people
that since the objective here is political, military force alone cannot
achieve"
the desired outcome, Nir said. "There needs to be a diplomatic component."
A top communal Jewish leader questioned the dovish groups' positions. The
director of the Anti-Defamation League, Abraham Foxman, wondered why IPF's
statement first called for an end to hostilities before commenting on the
situation and defending Israel's right to strike. "I find that skewed," he
said,
because Hamas didn't listen to calls to halt its rocket fire in recent
weeks.
Foxman rejected J Street's statement that "there is no military solution to
what
is fundamentally a political conflict," saying it "does a disservice" by
lumping
Hamas into the general Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
"They're not interested in negotiating," Foxman said. "They're a terrorist
organization. Why should they be treated by our community as a legitimate
partner to negotiations?"
http://jta.org/news/article/2008/12/30/1001894/liberal-pro-israel-groups-cri
ticize-gaza-operation
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