Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: [Peace-discuss] Repeating a lie doesn't make it true -- P S

[C. G. Estabrook]

No, he didn't.

In the summer of 2005 he said, "...we are fighting for freedom in places like 
Iraq and Afghanistan ... the seeds of democracy began to take root in Iraq ... 
It is a challenge now to try to fix the mess that has been made by this 
administration ... I believe the president must take a realistic look at our 
current strategy and reshape it into an aggressive and workable plan that will 
ensure success in Iraq."

And he explicitly rejected withdrawal.  He even refused to say that as president 
he would withdraw troops by 2013.

His proposal about bombing Iran -- during his campaign for Senate -- was part of 
general support of the common USG policy on the Middle East (including the 
suppression of the Palestinians, as Karen noted).  Documentation is in an 
accompanying post.


Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> PS Obama is on record as saying he opposed the war in IRAQ from the first
> which, I believe we now all agree, he in fact did. So yr accusation that in
> 2004 he advocating bombing IRAN is a brand new accusation which doesn't make
> him a liar about the former. I've never heard him advocate bombing Iran...
> and I've also never heard him claim he hasn't said it, so you can hardly
> accuse him of lying about it if it's never even come up. I'd still be
> interested in the documentation on that. --Jenifer