[Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] The "new anti-semitism" is back on campus

Thu Feb 14 09:44:48 CST 2008

In reading the brochure I get the impression that Brunstein was invited to
give this speech. As such it's not being presented as an academic lecture.
Now the organizations website in their "Myth and Fact" section does
specifically state supporting Israel and that could well be taken as
evidence to support the bias you referred to.
*
There will be no pretense at exploring an Arab/Muslim perspective

*Why would there be any pretenses or intentions of exploring different
cultural perspectives? Let me be clear that I'm not advocating prejudice in
any way shape or form. By that same token I am not blind to the conduct of
the United States in matters of foreign affairs. Every organization and
group has its own culture, and my question would be is it realistic to
suggest that this particular organization consider the Arab/Muslim point of
view? We are not just talking about politics - it goes further and deeper
than that.  A communication perspective on this would suggest that identity
and social constructs would need to be explored in order to understand the
politics of a given situation.

Peace, Marti

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:52 AM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I will be most surprised if they ultimate purpose of this lecture is not
> to identify Palestinians, Arabs, and Muslims with anti-semitism in order to
> avert our gaze from Israeli and American crimes. That's pretty much the way
> these things always go. If Brustein wants to give a scholarly lecture, why
> doesn't he have it sponsored by an academic department? I'm sure a man of
> his stature could find one. This is about politics, which is fine. But let's
> be honest. Those in the Jewish community who will attend are looking for red
> meat, not for scholarship, or at least they're looking for scholarship to
> support their prejudices.  With a little obfuscation, that's what they'll
> get. There will be no pretense at exploring an Arab/Muslim perspective.
>
> DG
>
>
> *Marti Wilkinson <martiwilki at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> I am not familiar with the work of Dr. Brustein, but I did take a look at
> his CV which is posted with his faculty biography and he has done extensive
> work on studying antisemitism. The communication that he asked for the image
> to be removed indicates that he may not have known about his.
>  *
> I also suspect that, couched in scholarly language, this will be the
> speaker's message*.
>
> The best way to really make that determination would be to either read his
> work, or attend the presentation.
>
>
> On Feb 13, 2008 1:42 PM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > In the final analysis, it's important to remember that the images
> > reflect exactly the intentions of those who defend Israel's policy--to
> > depict some, many, most, or all Palestinians not only as wanting to
> > exterminate Jews, and just for the sake of their being Jewish. I also
> > suspect that, couched in scholarly language, this will be the speaker's
> > message. It will be important to remind him and the audience that the ethnic
> > cleansing of the Palestinians, now a 60-year project, proceeds, and that
> > Palestinian efforts for a peaceful solution have been repeatedly rejected by
> > Israel and the U.S.
> >
> >
> > *Marilyn Booth <mbooth at uiuc.edu>* wrote:
> >
> >  The speaker has just communicated with me, also sending me the text of
> > a
> > message he has sent to the Rabbi Teichtel objecting strongly to the
> > representation and asking that it be removed.
> >
> > My interest in this was in actively objecting to an offensive
> > representation and having it taken out of public space. I will inform
> > him about the postcards.
> >
> > MB
> >
> > Laurie at advancenet.net wrote:
> > > Evidently, the postcard may have been designed and sent out by someone
> > in
> > > the sponsoring group and not the speaker. However, David said he got a
> > > postcard not a poster; your message to the speaker about a poster may
> > very
> > > well have confused the speaker who may have known about the postcards
> > but
> > > truthfully could claim to have no knowledge of a poster, which may not
> > > exist.
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net [mailto:peace-discuss-
> > >> bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Marilyn Booth
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 11:27 AM
> > >> To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net
> > >> Cc: Peace List; Peace Discuss
> > >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] The "new anti-semitism" is back
> > on
> > >> campus
> > >>
> > >> I have just sent the speaker a message protesting the content of the
> > >> poster. He immediately responded saying he had seen no poster and
> > would
> > >> I send him the link, which I have done.
> > >>
> > >> Marilyn Booth
> > >>
> > >> David Green wrote:
> > >>> Friends,
> > >>>
> > >>> I received a postcard in the mail announcing a campus event on Feb.
> > >>> 27th, an image of which is to be found at
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > http://www.jewishuiuc.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/632321/jewish/Th
> > >> e-New-Anti-Semitism.htm
> > >>> It depicts a Palestinian and another khaki-clad individual
> > >> besmirching
> > >>> the flag of Israel, next to a photo of a Nazi death camp. As far as
> > I
> > >>> know, there have never existed any death camps administered by
> > >> Palestinians.
> > >>> While William Brustein is a prolific scholar, it appears that we are
> > >> in
> > >>> for another equation of anti-Semitism and criticism of Israel. That
> > >> is,
> > >>> an apologetic for Zionist criminality.
> > >>>
> > >>> Needless to say, I find this offensive, not to mention defamatory
> > and
> > >>> racist. It can hardly be any more offensive, but given the
> > historical
> > >>> moment, I fear that this is the case.
> > >>>
> > >>> David Green
> > >>>
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