[Peace-discuss] Peretz Article

[David Green]

Not to take this too seriously, but Peretz is referring to a Christian Zionist movement from earlier in the 19th century that predated both the Jewish Zionist movement (1895) and the mass immigration of Jews from Eastern Europe.

LAURIE SOLOMON <LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET> wrote:        v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}                >"We have petitions upon petitions from centuries ago by Americans who wanted a
>Jewish homeland in Palestine," he says. "That's from before there were any Jews in the U.S.
   
  How is this possible?  How can you get petitions from Americans before there were any Jews in the U.S. unless we are talking about petitions from non-Jewish Americans, in which case why would they want a JEWISH homeland?  Since there have been Jews in the U.S. since the beginning of the U.S., they must be talking about the early settlers before the U.S. Revolution and even before the establishment of the early colonies.  Given that this makes little sense, I can only conclude that they are referring to the American aboriginals as having petitioned for the establishment of a Jewish homeland in Palestine
   
  I further have a hard time understanding why the American aboriginals would want a Jewish homeland in Palestine and why they would be petitioning the white man in the U.S. (or Europe for that matter) for it; or how the white men of that period would know how to read a written petition from an American aboriginal.  By the way, do we know which aboriginal group it was.
   
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    So if this is true, why did they want a Jewish homeland in Palestine? Was it because they loved Jews so much, or just wanted them to go somewhere else? Or was it because they dealt with their discomfort with Jews by projecting a biblical fantasy on to them? In any event, the vast majority of Jews either in Europe or America did not want a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Does that make any difference to Peretz? And why do Americans identify with Israel (if they do)? Only because propaganda since 1967 has exploited the Holocaust vis a vis Arabs and Muslims, and Israel has been identified with militarism.

     

    DG

"C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote

People like Walt and Mearsheimer are "facing a stone wall, which is the 
fact that the American people like Israel and identify with it," he 
says. That support has little to do with the Israel lobby. "We have 
petitions upon petitions from centuries ago by Americans who wanted a 
Jewish homeland in Palestine," he says. "That's from before there were 
any Jews in the U.S. There were maybe a dozen Jews in every city."

    
    
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