[Peace-discuss] Howard Zinn speaks

[Robert Dunn]

Ok Carl, lets see some miracles to know if you are really the Christ, at the next AWARE meeting, lets see you turn water into wine! If that happens, then I can say that News from Neptune should be canonized as the Word of the Lord! At the same time, it does say that in the latter-days, many will come and say, I am the Christ, do not believe them. > Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:41:58 -0600> From: galliher at uiuc.edu> To: jbw292002 at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Howard Zinn speaks> CC: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net; laurie at advancenet.net> > Having been christened/anointed (as I'm sure you have, John), I technically > qualify, I suppose -- but remember what happens to those so designated.> > In fact, Borges has a story about that, too: "The Gospel According to Mark" > <http://downloads.newyorker.com/mp3/071015_fiction_theroux.mp3>.> > BTW, the Borges' "story" I referred to below is in fact an essay, "The > Analytical Language of John Wilkins," available at > <http://www.crockford.com/wrrrld/wilkins.html>. Like all of Borges, it's worth > reading, in spite of his bad politics. --CGE> > > John W. wrote:> > At 05:00 PM 2/15/2008, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:> > > >> Good one. Laurie... and I also like the way you called Carl "Christ" ;-]> >> > >> --Jenifer> > > > > > Hahaha! I hadn't noticed, and didn't realize that Laurie was so > > spiritually inclined. "Christ" means, I think, "The Anointed One"...a > > characterization of Carl that I'm sure we can all live with. As proof > > of his status, he will correct me if I'm wrong. :-)> > > > John> > > > > > > >> "Laurie at advancenet.net" <laurie at advancenet.net> wrote:> >>> >>> >> > "On those remote pages it is written that animals are divided> >> into (a) those that belong to the> >> > Emperor, (b) embalmed ones, (c) those that are trained, (d)> >> suckling pigs, (e)> >> > mermaids, (f) fabulous ones, (g) stray dogs, (h) those that are> >> included in this> >> > classification, (i) those that tremble as if they were mad, (j)> >> innumerable> >> > ones, (k) those drawn with a very fine camel's hair brush, (l)> >> others, (m) those> >> > that have just broken a flower vase, (n) those that resemble> >> flies from a distance."> >>> >> Christ, isn't that a description of our government's enemies list,> >> which> >> they have stamped as classified? By releasing this, you will have> >> to answer> >> to Homeland Security - especially since you have listed some of> >> their top> >> personnel as enemy animals. :-)> >> > >>> >>> >> > -----Original Message-----> >> > From: peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net> >> [mailto:peace-discuss-> >> > bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of C. G. Estabrook> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:57 PM> >> > To: Jenifer Cartwright> >> > Cc: Peace Discuss; Morton K. Brussel> >> > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Howard Zinn speaks> >> >> >> > The multiple uses you cite serve to cover the fundamental social> >> meaning of> >> > class -- roughly those who have the same role in the process of> >> producing the> >> > necessities of life. In a (more or less) capitalist order, these> >> tend to two: a> >> > very small group of 'owners' (not a natural relationship but a> >> peculiar notion> >> > of dominion over what's needed to produce food and shelter) and> >> the large> >> > majority, who have to sell what makes them human -- their work> >> of head and hands> >> > -- in order to eat regularly (even when they're privileged, like> >> us). The> >> > interests of these two groups (classes, sensu stricto) are not> >> just skew but> >> > contradictory -- in spite of all Mr. Obama can say.> >> >> >> > Your description of the uses of class reminds of the famous> >> passage from a J. L.> >> > Borges' story, in which Borges claims to know of "a certain> >> Chinese encyclopedia> >> > entitled Celestial Emporium of Benevolent Knowledge. On those> >> remote pages it is> >> > written that animals are divided into (a) those that belong to> >> the Emperor, (b)> >> > embalmed ones, (c) those that are trained, (d) suckling pigs,> >> (e) mermaids, (f)> >> > fabulous ones, (g) stray dogs, (h) those that are included in this> >> > classification, (i) those that tremble as if they were mad, (j)> >> innumerable> >> > ones, (k) those drawn with a very fine camel's hair brush, (l)> >> others, (m) those> >> > that have just broken a flower vase, (n) those that resemble> >> flies from a> >> > distance." --CGE> > _______________________________________________> Peace-discuss mailing list> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/peace-discuss
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