FW: [Peace-discuss] Clinton stumping for Clinton on C-SPAN -- I must confess I was impressed...

LAURIE SOLOMON LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET
Wed Jan 2 17:41:59 CST 2008


 

 

>the Clintons are still straddling both sides of the tracks on that, with no
intention of actually moving too far to the "wrong" side once the campaign
>rhetoric is no longer necessary... tho' better than Bush (S-CHIP) plus I'd
still take my chances w/ them over any of the Republicans. 

 

Well, the above statement makes me ask would you rather cut off you left arm
or your right leg?  Or would you reject both options and prefer not to cut
anything off.  You seem to accept the proposition that you have to make a
choice between the two offered options and cannot insist on taking a
completely different road and ignore the offered choices.  

 

From: peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net
[mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Jenifer
Cartwright
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:21 PM
To: John W.; Peace-discuss List
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Clinton stumping for Clinton on C-SPAN -- I
must confess I was impressed... 

 

Sorry, no redundancy from my point of view (connotative meaning). Brains =
intelligence, IQ, ability to acquire, retain, process, and utilize vast amts
of knowledge. Smarts = canny, savvy, sharp, understand the game and are able
to stay two-steps ahead of it... Why don't some/most politicians have our
perspective when it comes down to all the things that really matter too
us??? Well, they just don't, ya know? Gore doesn't have to be beholden to
the corps anymore, and Carter never was in their pockets (so far as I'm
aware, not that he didn't make mistakes), and well, the Clintons are still
straddling both sides of the tracks on that, with no intention of actually
moving too far to the "wrong" side once the campaign rhetoric is no longer
necessary... tho' better than Bush (S-CHIP) plus I'd still take my chances
w/ them over any of the Republicans. 

 --Jenifer


"John W." <jbw292002 at gmail.com> wrote:

At 02:23 AM 1/2/2008, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:



Did anybody catch Bill stumping for Hilary yesterday on C-SPAN? Helluva
speech --organized, substantive, knowledgeable. Nobody in US politics today
can deliver up that level of offhand yet sincere oratory like Bill Clinton.
I had to keep reminding myself of all the awful things he did while in
office, it was that good... I actually liked, admired, and was less
terrified of Hilary when he was all done. Wow. (Sorry, but -- in my defense
-- there is something reassuring about brains, smarts, and an actual
program, ya know?)
 
 --Jenifer



The perennial question is, why do these candidates with brains, smarts (at
the risk of redundancy), and an actual program never seem to IMPLEMENT the
program once they're in office?  Or, to the extent they implement anything,
why does it end up being something like the very OPPOSITE of the program
they espoused when they were candidates?

These days Bill Clinton and Al Gore, like Jimmy Carter, seem to be the very
personification of wisdom and statesmanship.  Where was that wisdom and
statesmanship when they were in office?

John Wason

 

  

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