[Peace-discuss] Pointless primary -- Ritter DVD

[Jenifer Cartwright]

Ran into the show on Booknotes while channel surfing, and by the time I realized how compelling it was, it was too late to set VCR. It's also available video streaming, or at least it was.
   --Jenifer 

"John W." <jbw292002 at gmail.com> wrote:
  At 02:04 AM 1/16/2008, you wrote:

  Yep, I have a DVD of Ritter on C-SPAN from Aug 07 talking about his book w/ Mark Crispin Miller and that's where Ritter mentions that. It was such a GREAT show that I wanted to buy the DVD... which I now have and am still eager to watch w/ others on the list at any time. Ritter's point was don't count on Joe and Jane Citizen to change things, that peace activists need to organize around protecting the constitution -- which covers all other issues and is the only way to stop the Bush administration.
 
 --Jenifer 

I think I may have seen that same C-Span book review show.  Ritter is an excellent speaker - very authoritative.

I occasionally tape that type of thing on my VCR, though I never purchase the DVD.



  "John W." <jbw292002 at gmail.com> wrote:
  
  
   At 10:24 PM 1/14/2008, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:

    
   It's nationwide, John, not only this town. Scott Ritter sez his card-playing buddies say they "don't have time" to follow the news, not counting sports, which they have plenty of time for -- SCOTT RITTER'S BUDDIES, FER CRISSAKES!! -- and I KNOW many of my friends (and many friends of everyone on this list, I'm guessing) haven't a clue about what's going on in our country and world... because they're just not interested, NOT because the media is failing to inform them. The MSM is responsible for misleading the ones who actually do pay attention, of course... and then there are the idiots listening to O'Reilly and Rush... Most of those who don't vote are NOT making a statement other than that they REALLY aren't interested, imho. Btw, according to some recent poll or other, most (young) people now get their news from the Internet, a death sentence to newspapers eventually. 
  
    --Jenifer 

  
   Hahaha!  It wasn't THIS town that I was referring to.  THIS town is a veritable hotbed of critical thinking, compared to the vast wastelands in between American university communities.

  
   In everything else you say above, I quite agree with you.  I too get much of my news from the internet...and from this peace-discuss list.  Hahahaha!

  
   Interesting factoid about Scott Ritter.

  
   John



    
   "John W." <jbw292002 at gmail.com> wrote:     
   At 03:21 AM 1/14/2008, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:

    
   Ah yes, another example of our ill-informed electorate. And folks on this very list were arguing some months back w/ posts describing joe sixpack in those terms??   
    --Jenifer
  
   Having barely survived 20 years' residency in a town that was utterly homogeneous in its citizens' absence of critical thinking, I would renew to my dying breath the argument that Joe Sixpack is ill-informed.  The media is/are a part of the problem, but only part.  Joe has to WANT to be informed, and that is sadly not generally the case.
  
   John Wason



    
   "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:     
      
   More evidence that the issues have been carefully removed from the   
   presidential campaign, really now no more than a high-school popularity   
   contest. --CGE   
      
   NH Voters Thought McCain Opposed the Iraq War?   
   Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 in News by James Bovard   
      
   CNN crunched the exit poll data from yesterday’s New Hampshire primary   
   and found that “among the 34 percent [of Republican primary voters] who   
   said they disapproved of the war, McCain had a wide advantage over the   
   GOP field — even over Texas Rep. Ron Paul, the sole advocate of a U.S.   
   withdrawal in the Republican field.” (hat tip to Think Progress).   
   Perhaps such voters did not realize the temporal difference between   
   exiting Iraq ”now” (in Ron Paul’s case) versus 10,000 years from now (in   
   McCain’s case, according to his comment on CBS’s Face the Nation last week).   
   McCain has rarely missed a chance to grovel at Bush’s feet to support   
   the Iraq war...

  
   http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/09/nh-voters-thought-mccain-opposed-the-iraq-war/     

       
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