[Peace-discuss] for more clarity on this issue

E. Wayne Johnson ewj at pigs.ag
Tue Jul 8 07:39:33 CDT 2008


Laurie,
What you want to leave aside is just what should be pointed out is that
Chicago is indeed quite different from other large cities and it is not 
doing well.



LAURIE wrote:
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> > Unfortunately, that armpit of a city forms the largest population 
> base in the state, and therefore essentially dominates much of what we 
> do even >though Chicago is more than a 100 miles away.
>
> I doubt if that armpit is any different from other large cities and, 
> for that matter, smaller locales except for size and population 
> density.  However, leaving that aside, what you are decrying is one of 
> the properties of majority rule definitions of Democracy in federal 
> system of government within the U.S.  It is the sort of 
> socio-political environment that crushed the early Utopian Socialist 
> communities that were created in locations such as rural Indiana as 
> well as early Mormon communities.  Formal local autonomy and 
> independence is relatively meaningless in an interdependent society 
> when the surrounding community's and their populations demand 
> conformity with majority rule.
>
> *From:* peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net 
> [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] *On Behalf Of *E. 
> Wayne Johnson
> *Sent:* Monday, July 07, 2008 11:45 PM
> *To:* Barbara kessel
> *Cc:* Peace-discuss; CUCPJ
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] for more clarity on this issue
>
> I don't understand why the people in Chicago don't get rid of Daley.  
> I mean get him out of office and out of the way, not rub him out.
>
> The government of Chicago seems almost totally incapable of performing 
> the most basic functions of
> "securing life, liberty, and happiness" even though their populace is 
> taxed at horrendous rates.  Hardly a day goes by that I dont hear some 
> new testimony as to how poorly the city is managed, and how corrupt 
> the entire public system in Chicago is. Crime, theft, corruption, 
> murders, graft, cheating, lousy education system, and a vile wintry 
> climate that poses the question of why anyone willing would  live 
> there.  I suppose Chicagoans must enjoy crime and corruption because 
> they never seem to do anything to improve the situation.  
> Unfortunately, that armpit of a city forms the largest population base 
> in the state, and therefore essentially dominates much of what we do 
> even though Chicago is more than a 100 miles away.
>
> Barbara kessel wrote:
>
> *Mayor Daley calls Supreme Court gun Ban Reversal a 'very frightening 
> decision'*
>
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-supreme-court-gun-ban,0,3522044.story
>
> This issue relates to the issue raised about police sitting on their 
> hands while murder (read "street crime" ) goes up. This kind of murder 
> is more preventable than "crimes of passion," and gun laws are one 
> piece of the puzzle. Police policy is another piece.
> B Kessel
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