[Prairiegreens-org] Re: [Peace-discuss] Inclusive Presidential Debates

[Jenifer Cartwright]

The "average American" is clueless about Ahmadinejad, but if pushed, s/he will guess that it's maybe not too far away from Kyoto?? PIPA polls are NOTHING like the polls I've answered nor administered (I worked for a couple of year for the U of I Survey Research Lab), where -- as John has said -- NO deviation from the written question is permitted and NO further information is given.
 --Jenifer 

--- On Wed, 7/9/08, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:

From: C. G. Estabrook <galliher at uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: [Prairiegreens-org] Re: [Peace-discuss] Inclusive Presidential Debates
To: "John W." <jbw292002 at gmail.com>
Cc: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, "Prairie Greens of East Central Illinois" <prairiegreens-org at lists.chambana.net>
Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 10:43 PM

I thought it was the Average American President of Columbia University who 
instructed us on that point.


John W. wrote:
> I'd love to see this.  In fact, Ahmadinejad has already had such 
> "debates" with American leaders in the media.  And he
wins....though you 
> couldn't prove it by the "average" American, who thinks that
Ahmadinejad 
> is Satan.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:37 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at uiuc.edu 
> <mailto:galliher at uiuc.edu>> wrote:
> 
>     [If not "truly inclusive," this would be at least more
inclusive
>     than any other so far proposed.  I await The Nation's enthusiastic
>     acceptance.  --CGE]
> 
>            Iran's Ahmadinejad challenges Obama, McCain to debate  
>            Jul 8 08:11 AM US/Eastern
> 
>     Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Tuesday challenged the
>     candidates vying for the US presidency to a debate and called for
>     "fundamental change" in the next US government.
> 
>     Ahmadinejad said he would be willing to meet with Democratic
>     candidate Barack Obama, who has taken fire from his opponents over
>     his offer to talk -- if elected president -- with the leaders of
>     several US foes including Iran.
> 
>     "I announce my readiness to meet with all the (US presidential)
>     candidates of the United States in front of the media," the
Iranian
>     president told a press conference at the D8 summit of developing
>     nations.
> 
>     "To build confidence in the region (we need) to have fundamental
>     change in the next US government," he added. Ahmadinejad has
>     previously challenged Bush to a debate at the United Nations.
> 
>     The Iranian leader also called for United States military bases
>     across the world to be "eradicated".
> 
>     "The greatest threat in the Middle East and to countries in the
>     world is US intervention," he said. "The military bases in
the whole
>     world should be eradicated and removed."
> 
>     Ahmadinejad, who is embroiled in a wrangle with the West over
Iran's
>     nuclear enrichment programme, called on the major powers to
>     "withdraw from animosity and hostile actions against us".
> 
>     "Justice, peace and friendship is also to their benefit," he
said.
> 
>     He reiterated that his country would not pull back from its nuclear
>     ambitions and called on Washington to withdraw its troops from Iraq.
> 
>     "No one in Iran will go back from our nuclear position," he
said.
>     "We want dialogue for the benefit of all sides but within the
>     framework of law and justice"
> 
>     "To rebuild confidence, the US must withdraw its forces from Iraq
>     and allow the fate of the people of Iraq and regional countries to
>     be written by the hands of their own people," he said.
> 
>     Copyright AFP 2008.
> 
>    
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080708121056.0qkkhodl&show_article=1
>    
<http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080708121056.0qkkhodl&show_article=1>
> 
> 
>     Walter Pituc wrote:
> 
>         Here is a good piece by the The Nation about the need for truly
>         inclusive Presidential debates... 
> 
> 
> 
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