[Peace-discuss] Look who's decrying HR 362

[Ricky Baldwin]

I was talking to a retired special ops soldier at a rest area on I-57 this week, about how ridiculous the claims of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq had been ... and suddenly he straightened up and, indicating a tiny bit with his thumb and forefinger, he announced, "And if Iran's got that much  (warhead quality) uranium, I'll kiss your butt!"

All I need to tell my neighbors from here on in, I decided.

Hey- are we demonstrating Monday?

Ricky 


--- On Wed, 7/16/08, Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Look who's decrying HR 362
> To: "Randall Cotton" <recotton at earthlink.net>
> Cc: "peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 10:51 AM
> I'm all for it. Monday would be a great day for this. I
> am currently
> on the East Coast, so unable to attend; but could support
> in other
> ways.
> 
> I think that a powerful argument for Johnson might be that
> a number of
> co-sponsors of the resolution have expressed grave concerns
> about the
> blockade language, including Frank and Wexler, publicly
> (these
> documents could be provided); Clay of Missouri removed his
> name from
> the resolution as a result of pressure from peace groups in
> St. Louis.
> 
> The best thing, obviously, would be for Johnson to remove
> his name, as
> Clay as done. The second best thing would be for him to do
> something
> public (like sending a letter to the ranking member of
> House Foreign
> Relations) expressing concern about the blockade language.
> The third
> best thing would be for him to do the same thing privately.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Randall Cotton
> <recotton at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Did anything come of the plans to contact Bob Naiman
> about coordinated
> > action to influence our occasionally
> independent-minded Congressman Tim
> > Johnson regarding this issue? A group visit to
> Johnson's office was
> > suggested at the AWARE meeting Sunday before last...
> >
> > R
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "C. G. Estabrook"
> <galliher at uiuc.edu>
> > To: "peace-discuss"
> <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:16 PM
> > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Look who's decrying HR
> 362
> >
> >
> > : A Phony Crisis -- and a Real One
> > : by Patrick J. Buchanan
> > : Posted 07/15/2008 ET
> > :
> > : Last week, the front pages of the world press
> blossomed with photos of
> > four
> > : Iranian rockets, fired in salvo, heading skyward.
> > :
> > : The image was powerful, and the message reinforced
> by the head of the
> > Iranian
> > : Revolutionary Guard. Should Israel attack Iran, said
> Ali Shira, Tel Aviv
> > will be
> > : "set on fire."
> > :
> > : U.S. reaction was swift and bristling. "Rice
> Says U.S. Will Defend
> > Gulf,"
> > : declared the headline over the AP story that began:
> > :
> > : "Condoleezza Rice flexed America's muscles
> in the Middle East Thursday,
> > : forcefully warning Iran the U.S. won't ignore
> threats and will take any
> > action
> > : necessary to defend friends and interests in the
> Persian Gulf. ...
> > :
> > : "Rice said Iran's leaders should understand
> that Washington won't
> > dismiss
> > : provocations from Tehran and has the ability to
> counter them. 'I don't
> > think the
> > : Iranians are too confused, either, about the
> capability and the power of
> > the
> > : United States to do exactly that.'"
> > :
> > : And what were the results of last week's missile
> crisis in the Gulf?
> > Tensions
> > : rose, strengthening Tehran's embattled Mahmoud
> Ahmadinejad. And oil
> > prices shot
> > : from $136 a barrel to a record $147.
> > :
> > : That $11-a-barrel spike alone translates into $25
> million a day in fresh
> > revenue
> > : for Ahmadinejad and Co. And as the United States
> imports 13 million of
> > the 20
> > : million barrels we daily consume, that $11 spike in
> price translates
> > into $143
> > : million more sucked out of the U.S. economy every
> day -- into the
> > coffers of
> > : Canada, Mexico, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia and OPEC.
> > :
> > : Can we not see who benefits and who pays for this
> war talk?
> > :
> > : Every day the war drums beat, the mullahs get richer
> and we get poorer.
> > Which
> > : raises the question. Was this mini-missile crisis
> cooked up by the
> > mullahs to
> > : rip off Uncle Sam? For by week's end it appeared
> the Americans had been
> > had,
> > : big-time.
> > :
> > : Saturday's New York Times reported that that
> photo of the four Iranian
> > missiles
> > : fired in salvo had been doctored.
> > :
> > : One rocket appears twice in the same photo. The
> large missile, on
> > inspection,
> > : was not the new Shahab-3b, which has a range of
> 1,200 miles, but a
> > Shahab-3a,
> > : with a range of 900 miles. It is no longer in
> production.
> > :
> > : The missiles fired with the Shahab-3a turned out to
> be Scuds, a
> > short-range
> > : missile that is no threat to Israel.
> > :
> > : The second day's firing turns out to have been
> of a single anti-ship
> > missile.
> > : Iranian TV showed one firing from three angles,
> making it appear as
> > though three
> > : missiles had been fired in succession.
> > :
> > : "The bottom line is that the Iranians are
> tweaking our noses," said
> > Charles
> > : Vick, an expert on Iran's missile forces.
> > :
> > : Under Secretary of State Nick Burns then splashed
> cold water on Iran's
> > alleged
> > : crash program to acquire nuclear weapons.
> > :
> > : "Iran has not yet perfected (uranium)
> enrichment," said Burns, "and, as
> > a direct
> > : result of U.N. sanctions, Iran's ability to
> procure technology or items
> > of
> > : significance to its missile programs, even dual-use
> items, is being
> > impaired."
> > :
> > : Though the ex-head of Mossad, Shabtai Shavit, says
> Iran may be one year
> > away
> > : from a bomb -- and will use it on Israel --
> according to the latest U.S.
> > : National Intelligence Estimate, Iran shut down its
> nuclear weapons
> > program in 2003.
> > :
> > : Iran, says Burns, has not yet mastered the
> technology of converting
> > uranium gas
> > : into fuel for use in power plants, let alone the
> stuff of bombs. And
> > even if
> > : Iran is one day able to enrich to weapons grade, she
> would still have to
> > build
> > : and test a nuclear device, then weaponize it to fit
> atop a missile and
> > deploy a
> > : missile force. All in all, says Burns, Iran's
> progress with uranium
> > enrichment
> > : has been "modest."
> > :
> > : There is thus no imminent crisis to justify war on
> Iran.
> > :
> > : Yet, what is Nancy Pelosi's Democratic House
> doing?
> > :
> > : Some 220 members, a majority, have endorsed House
> Concurrent Resolution
> > 362.
> > : This virtual war resolution "demands" that
> President Bush initiate a
> > blockade to
> > : halt all Iranian imports of refined petroleum
> products and impose
> > "stringent
> > : inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles,
> ships, planes, trains,
> > and
> > : cargo entering or departing Iran."
> > :
> > : A Democratic House that came to power denouncing the
> rush to war on Iraq
> > is
> > : about to vote to demand that Bush commit an act of
> war against Iran.
> > :
> > : The front men for 362 are liberal Gary Ackerman of
> New York and
> > conservative
> > : Mike Pence of Indiana. But the juice behind them is
> that of the Israeli
> > lobby
> > : AIPAC, which is marching in step with Israel.
> > :
> > : Last week, Mossad's chief, Meir Dagan, was here
> to make the case for war
> > on
> > : Iran. This week, Defense Minister Ehud Barak visits
> Dick Cheney and
> > maybe Bush.
> > : Next week, it is the head of Israel's armed
> forces.
> > :
> > : Israel and its Fifth Column in this city seek to
> stampede us into war
> > with Iran.
> > : Bush should rebuff them, and the American people
> should tell their
> > congressmen:
> > : You vote for 362, we don't vote for you.
> > :
> > : Mr. Buchanan is a nationally syndicated columnist
> and author of "The
> > Death of
> > : the West," "The Great Betrayal,"
> "A Republic, Not an Empire" and "Where
> > the
> > : Right Went Wrong."
> > :
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> Reserved.
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