[Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] No War on
Iran demo in Chicago
Karen Medina
kmedina at illinois.edu
Mon Jul 28 10:42:12 CDT 2008
Jenifer,
I was being facetious with the "join the private militias" bit, or perhaps ironic.
Mostly because these are most likely the jobs many will feel comfortable doing.
The help professions are the opposite of their training, imho, but what we will
need the most to compensate for the toll the war will take on the US for several
generations.
-karen medina
---- Original message ----
>Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 10:22:39 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] No War on Iran demo in Chicago
>To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net, kmedina at illinois.edu
>
>Actually some returning vets do apply for some of those jobs (or come back to
>them -- I personally know of one man who was both a local policeman and
also
>member of nat'l guard unit sent to Iraq).
>
>Benefits for returning vets for sure, including coverage of college costs.
>Interesting list of careers, most of which are in the helping professions (not
>everyone's idea of a career choice) and require some college, especially if they
>pay even close to a living wage w/ benefits, etc. Jmho.
> --Jenifer
>
>--- On Sat, 7/26/08, Karen Medina <kmedina at illinois.edu> wrote:
>
> From: Karen Medina <kmedina at illinois.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] No War on Iran demo in Chicago
> To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net
> Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 11:24 AM
>
> > Jenifer wrote; the current admin (and Repos, including McCain) were
> unwilling
> > to give returning service men and women college op$, because that would
> > make it unnecessary for folks to re-up, which would deplete the military
>
> They could always work for the private militias, prison guards, local police,
> border patrol, NSA, Homeland Security.
>
> * Bring them home,
> * Give them the benefits the military promised them including college and
> health care, and
> * Train them as health care and mental health care workers (professionals
that
>
> they will need).
> * Also train them as drug abuse treatment workers
>
> -karen medina
> ========================================
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:05:25 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] No War on Iran demo in Chicago
> >To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net, kmedina at illinois.edu
> >
> >The present admin only continued what the Clinton admin started -- NAFTA
> (and welfare to work my foot). The line went something like this: "The
> Clinton
> Admin created 2 million new jobs!" "Yeah, I know. my wife and I each
> have three
> of them."
>
> >
>
> >And re the military (w/ so many joining for financial reasons, as you say,
>
> >Karen): the current admin (and Repos, including McCain) were unwilling to
> give
> >returning service men and women college op$, because that would make it
>
> >unnecessary for folks to re-up, which would deplete the military (all-
> volunteer military my foot).
>
> > --Jenifer
>
> >
>
> >--- On Sat, 7/26/08, Karen Medina <kmedina at illinois.edu> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > From: Karen Medina <kmedina at illinois.edu>
>
> > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] No War on Iran demo in Chicago
>
> > To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net
>
> > Date: Saturday, July 26, 2008, 10:41 AM
>
> >
>
> > cge and mkb were writing about Code Pink's waffling and Medea
> Benjamin's
> > statement:
>
> > >"Itʼs not enough to simply say 'Troops out now.' Should
> we
> > be calling for talks with the Taliban? ... Should we advocate a timeline
> for the
> > withdrawal of U.S. troops and if so, based on what criteria?"
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > About a year ago I was participating in a campus demonstration
spearheaded
>
> by
> > the Green party students but with loads of other groups participating.
> They
> > wanted one of the "demands" to be "troops out now". It
> was
> > fairly easy to convince them that it should be "troops home
> now".
> >
>
> > Bring them home now. But even this I say with a little shudder -- the load
> on
> > society when they do come home is going to be tremendous. You of course
> realize
> > who we send when it is an all-volunteer operation: young people who felt
> that
> > their job prospects were not so good to start with. Now they will be
> coming
> home
> > damaged as well as jobless. Oh the things this administration has done to
>
> ruin
> > our young people and the economy. Heartbreaking.
>
> >
>
> > -karen medina
>
> >
>
> >
>
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