[Peace-discuss] Hedges: only a candidate
who calls for an immediate end to the war...
Karen Medina
kmedina at illinois.edu
Thu Jul 31 17:25:43 CDT 2008
Jenifer,
McCain is a wart. His warts are so similar to Bush/Cheney's that they do not
need to be pointed to. This choir already knows this, so why sing that song?
My hope is that by pointing to Obama's warts he will look in the mirror and see
them as warts. If we don't point to them, then we are saying we are content with
them.
Obama thinks that troops in Afghanistan are better than fighting troops in Iraq.
With each day he sounds more and more similar to staying the course than
change. He scared us when he did not define Change, and we were right to be
frightened: the things he does actually say grow darker and darker as time
passes.
Why isn't MoveOn saying anything about Afghanistan, Iran, and Israel? ... Maybe
Obama might listen to them if they did.
-karen medina
---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:53:36 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Hedges: only a candidate who calls for an
immediate end to the war...
>To: peace-discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>, kmedina at illinois.edu
>
>Personally, I think a McCain win would be the end for our nation and the
>world -- even if it wouldn't REALLY affect Chris Hedges and others of his
>mindset -- and I wish the Demos were running a better campaign to prevent
its
>happening. Even tho' it wouldn't REALLY affect me either, I care deeply about
>those it would affect -- and what's happpening now in Iraq is just the tip of
>the iceberg re US wars of aggression and occupation, should McCain get in.
>Think: Supreme Court nominees. Think: US constitution vs executive power.
>Think: Roe v Wade. Think McCain's "Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran (ha
ha)." Or
>for that matter, just think.
>
>I too am sad that Kucinich doesn't resonate w/ others in and out of Congress
>as he does w/ us, but we have to work w/ that reality, regardless of the
>reasons, like it or not. I can't believe the House hasn't backed him on even
>the first article of impeachment, but then Pelosi isn't Kucinich
>(understatement). I'm still hopeful about that and holding Rove in contempt
>of Congress. Small victories, as somebody said recently.
>
>It amazes me that there are NO postings about McCain on this (and other
>progressive lists and blogs). Or about the evil and delusional Nader either.
>Maybe if there were, folks would have an easier time supporting Obama, warts
>and all.
> --Jenifer
>
>--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Karen Medina <kmedina at illinois.edu> wrote:
>
> From: Karen Medina <kmedina at illinois.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Hedges: only a candidate who calls for an
> immediate end to the war...
> To: "peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 3:24 PM
>
> > "I can't vote for anybody who doesn't call for an immediate
> end to the war in
> Iraq."
>
> Personally, I miss Kucinich.
>
> -karen medina
>
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:25:30 -0500
> >From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
> >Subject: [Peace-discuss] Hedges: only a candidate who calls for an
> immediate
> end to the war...
> >To: peace-discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> >
> >[The Nader campaign is circulating the following comment by Chris Hedges,
> whose
> >articles have been posted to this list. --CGE]
> >
> >
> >Brian Lamb, interviewing former New York Times reporter Chris Hedges,
asked
>
> >Hedges who he's going to vote for this year for President.
> "I'm going to vote
> >for Nader," Hedges said. "I can't vote for anybody who
> doesn't call for an
> >immediate end to the war in Iraq."
> >
> >"The war under post-Nuremberg laws is a criminal war of aggression.
> It's
> >illegal. We have no right as a nation to debate the terms of the
> occupation. We
> >have no right to be there."
> >
> >Hedges is just out with a new book, with Laila Al-Arian, titled
> "Collateral
> >Damage: America's War Against Iraqi Civilians."
> >
> >He's the author of two other anti-war classics: "What Every Person
> Should
> Know
> >About War" and "War is a Force that Gives Us Meaning."
> >
> >
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