[Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] Fwd: [ExComm] Fwd: News-Gazette coverage

[C. G. Estabrook]

I think Bob's implication is correct.  For the university chancellor to attempt to 
prevent students from wearing pro-Chief shirts at university-sponsored events 
would be a violation of those students' free speech rights.  I can't imagine an 
attempt to regulate content at a university function that wouldn't be a violation 
of free speech -- tho' of course we've seen plenty of that in recent decades.

If you don't believe in free speech for views you despise, you don't believe in it 
at all.  That's been clear since, roughly, Voltaire. --CGE

---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 18:22:47 +0200
>From: "Robert Naiman" <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>  
>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] Fwd: [ExComm] Fwd: News-Gazette 
coverage  
>To: "Stuart Levy" <slevy at ncsa.uiuc.edu>
>Cc: peace-discuss at anti-war.net
>
>   I don't see what the principled difference is
>   between asking the University to bar Chief t-shirts
>   from University events and asking the Urbana City
>   Council to bar Holocaust denial videos from UPTV. It
>   seems to me that Chancellor Herman's decision was
>   correct on free-speech grounds, and that asking the
>   University to sever its ties with Homecoming if
>   there are pro-Chief displays is analogous to asking
>   the Urbana City Council to get rid of public access
>   if it results in Holocaust denial videos being
>   aired.
>
>   If the analogy is imperfect, it seems to me that it
>   is close enough that it should give us pause.
>
>   On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Stuart Levy
>   <slevy at ncsa.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>     On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 05:52:16PM +0200, Robert
>     Naiman wrote:
>     > I suppose we may soon see letters in the
>     News-Gazette charging the peace
>     > community in Champaign-Urbana with gross
>     hypocrisy.
>     >
>     > One the one hand, we are insisting that the
>     Urbana City Council defend the
>     > right to air Holocaust denial videos on UPTV.
>     >
>     > On the other hand, we are demanding that the
>     Chancellor stop students from
>     > wearing pro-Chief shirts in University-sponsored
>     events.
>     >
>     > What's the consistent principle that unites
>     these two demands?
>
>     But are we demanding that?  The recent article
>     closes by pointing out
>          "It is important to understand that we are
>     not talking about
>        the freedom of an individual or a group of
>     individuals to
>        walk down Wright Street or appear in the stands
>     at a football
>        or basketball game dressed as the Chief.  Some
>     of us might
>        find that behavior odious," the statement says,
>     but it can't
>        legitimately be proscribed.
>
>          That's different from use of the Chief by
>     participants in a
>        university-sponsored event, the committee says.
>
>     That sounds consistent to me.  We can oppose
>     institutional racism
>     while still supporting individual freedom of
>     expression, even when it's
>     racist.  No?
>     > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Belden Fields
>     <a-fields at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>     >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > Begin forwarded message:
>     > >
>     > > *From: *Belden Fields <a-fields at uiuc.edu>
>     > > *Date: *April 30, 2008 8:57:52 AM CDT
>     > > *To: *UPEexcom <EXCOMM at prairienet.org>
>     > > *Subject: **[ExComm] Fwd: News-Gazette
>     coverage*
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > Begin forwarded message:
>     > >
>     > > *From: *Belden Fields <a-fields at uiuc.edu>
>     > > *Date: *April 30, 2008 8:55:01 AM CDT
>     > > *To: *Constance H Shapiro <chshapir at uiuc.edu>,
>     Eleanor Tewksbury <
>     > > etewksbu at uiuc.edu>, Joyce Tolliver
>     <joycet at uiuc.edu>, Adriana Cuervo
>     > > acuervo at uiuc.edu, Belden Fields
>     a-fields at uiuc.edu, Kevin Fritz
>     > > kfritz2 at uiuc.edu, Franci Miller
>     familler at uiuc.edu, Adriana Cuervo <
>     > > acuervo at uiuc.edu>
>     > > *Subject: **News-Gazette coverage*
>     > >
>     > > Dear Excom members,
>     > >
>     > > I hope that you all had a chance to see Julie
>     Wurth's excellent story
>     > > about the Senate's Equal Opportunity and
>     Inclusion Committee's resolution
>     > > and policy statement in yesterday's (Thursday,
>     the 29th) News-Gazette.
>     > >
>     > > Belden
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