[Peace-discuss] Uncle Noam on the BBC

[Jenifer Cartwright]

How great would that be?! Hell, invite 'em both... and the Durbins as well.
 --Jenifer

--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Karen Medina <kmedina at illinois.edu> wrote:

From: Karen Medina <kmedina at illinois.edu>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Uncle Noam on the BBC
To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 1:34 PM

We could start by inviting Michelle Obama to the local IVAW Winter Soldier event

November 13th.

-karen medina

---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:39:55 -0600
>From: Bob Illyes <illyes at uiuc.edu>  
>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Uncle Noam on the BBC  
>To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>
>Uncle Noam is not going to be satisfied with anything except perhaps 
>himself. He's a utopian. The problem with utopians is that they
disregard 
>the contrariness of human nature. As the joke goes in the life sciences, 
>"under the most carefully controlled experimental conditions, the
organism 
>will do whatever it damned well pleases."
>
>Obama solicited our opinions in his acceptance speech. His record indicates

>that he will consider all sides of issues. The problem, as always, is how 
>to get our opinions past the gate-keepers. There is no time to waste. It is

>likely that he will move very fast once in office.
>
>Bob
>
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