[Peace-discuss] [Fwd: [ronpaul-207] "Compulsory universal service"
for ages 18-25]
E. Wayne Johnson
ewj at pigs.ag
Mon Nov 10 07:20:05 CST 2008
Absolutely I have no problem with it as long as it is absolutely
voluntary and optional, there is no penalty or aspersion
for non-participation, and no reward for participation other than
reasonable compensation.
Otherwise, when they "ask us to report" we must " invite them to go to
hell".
Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> Sounds like a great idea to me. Make it 6 months. Good training (so
> long as it isn't compulsory military service and the kids have re what
> and where). You apparently have a problem w/ this??
> --Jenifer
>
> --- On *Sun, 11/9/08, E. Wayne Johnson /<ewj at pigs.ag>/* wrote:
>
> From: E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
> Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Fwd: [ronpaul-207] "Compulsory universal
> service" for ages 18-25]
> To: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 10:55 PM
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [ronpaul-207] "Compulsory universal service" for ages 18-25
> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 21:58:56 -0500
> From: Kurt Fiech <kfiech at hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: ronpaul-207 at meetup.com
> To: ronpaul-207 at meetup.com
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>
> Obama's chief of staff choice favors compulsory universal
> service
>
> Rep. Rahm Emanuel <http://www.house.gov/emanuel/photos.shtml>
> of Illinois, President-Elect Barack Obama's choice for chief
> of staff in his incoming administration, is co-author of a
> book, /The Plan: Big Ideas for America/
> <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1586484125/>, that calls
> for, among other things, compulsory service for all Americans
> ages 18 to 25. The following excerpt is from pages 61-62 of
> the 2006 book:
>
> It's time for a real Patriot Act that brings out the
> patriot in all of us. We propose universal civilian
> service for every young American. Under this plan, All
> Americans between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five
> will be asked to serve their country by going through
> three months of basic training, civil defense preparation
> and community service. ...
> Here's how it would work. Young people will know that
> between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five, the nation
> will enlist them for three months of civilian service.
> They'll be asked to report for three months of basic civil
> defense training in their state or community, where they
> will learn what to do in the event of biochemical, nuclear
> or conventional attack; how to assist others in an
> evacuation; how to respond when a levee breaks or we're
> hit by a natural disaster. These young people will be
> available to address their communities' most pressing needs.
>
> Emanuel and co-author Bruce Reed insist "this is not a draft,"
> but go on to write of young men and women, "the nation will
> enlist them for three months of civilian service." They also
> warn, "[s]ome Republicans will squeal about individual
> freedom," ruling out any likelihood that they would let people
> opt out of universal citizen service.
>
> As chief of staff, Emanuel will not be in a position to
> directly introduce public policy, but his enthusiasm for
> compulsory service, combined with Barack Obama's own plan to
> require high school students to perform 50 hours of
> government-approved service
> <http://www.examiner.com/x-536-Civil-Liberties-Examiner%7Ey2008m9d17-The-plausibly-deniable-draft--Obamas-very-modern-take-on-national-service>,
> suggest an unfortunate direction for the new administration.
>
>
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