[Peace-discuss] [Fwd: [ronpaul-207] "Compulsory universal service" for ages 18-25]

E. Wayne Johnson ewj at pigs.ag
Mon Nov 10 07:20:05 CST 2008


Absolutely I have no problem with it as long as it is absolutely 
voluntary and optional, there is no penalty or aspersion
for non-participation, and no reward for participation other than 
reasonable compensation.

Otherwise, when they "ask us to report" we must " invite them to go to 
hell".



Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> Sounds like a great idea to me. Make it 6 months. Good training (so 
> long as it isn't compulsory military service and the kids have re what 
> and where). You apparently have a problem w/ this??
>  --Jenifer
>
> --- On *Sun, 11/9/08, E. Wayne Johnson /<ewj at pigs.ag>/* wrote:
>
>     From: E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
>     Subject: [Peace-discuss] [Fwd: [ronpaul-207] "Compulsory universal
>     service" for ages 18-25]
>     To: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>     Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 10:55 PM
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>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject: 	[ronpaul-207] "Compulsory universal service" for ages 18-25
>     Date: 	Sun, 9 Nov 2008 21:58:56 -0500
>     From: 	Kurt Fiech <kfiech at hotmail.com>
>     Reply-To: 	ronpaul-207 at meetup.com
>     To: 	ronpaul-207 at meetup.com
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>
>
>           Obama's chief of staff choice favors compulsory universal
>           service
>
>         Rep. Rahm Emanuel <http://www.house.gov/emanuel/photos.shtml>
>         of Illinois, President-Elect Barack Obama's choice for chief
>         of staff in his incoming administration, is co-author of a
>         book, /The Plan: Big Ideas for America/
>         <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1586484125/>, that calls
>         for, among other things, compulsory service for all Americans
>         ages 18 to 25. The following excerpt is from pages 61-62 of
>         the 2006 book:
>
>             It's time for a real Patriot Act that brings out the
>             patriot in all of us. We propose universal civilian
>             service for every young American. Under this plan, All
>             Americans between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five
>             will be asked to serve their country by going through
>             three months of basic training, civil defense preparation
>             and community service. ...
>             Here's how it would work. Young people will know that
>             between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five, the nation
>             will enlist them for three months of civilian service.
>             They'll be asked to report for three months of basic civil
>             defense training in their state or community, where they
>             will learn what to do in the event of biochemical, nuclear
>             or conventional attack; how to assist others in an
>             evacuation; how to respond when a levee breaks or we're
>             hit by a natural disaster. These young people will be
>             available to address their communities' most pressing needs.
>
>         Emanuel and co-author Bruce Reed insist "this is not a draft,"
>         but go on to write of young men and women, "the nation will
>         enlist them for three months of civilian service." They also
>         warn, "[s]ome Republicans will squeal about individual
>         freedom," ruling out any likelihood that they would let people
>         opt out of universal citizen service.
>
>         As chief of staff, Emanuel will not be in a position to
>         directly introduce public policy, but his enthusiasm for
>         compulsory service, combined with Barack Obama's own plan to
>         require high school students to perform 50 hours of
>         government-approved service
>         <http://www.examiner.com/x-536-Civil-Liberties-Examiner%7Ey2008m9d17-The-plausibly-deniable-draft--Obamas-very-modern-take-on-national-service>,
>         suggest an unfortunate direction for the new administration.
>
>
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