[Peace-discuss] Re: Frontline, Venezuela

[John W.]

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>wrote:

Whoa, I want to be able to say more about the PUBLIC Broadcasting System
> than that "it can't be all bad." As for Nightline, I've watched it only a
> couple of times because I forget about it, plus I personally cannot STAND
> Terry Moran.
>

Frontline and Nightline are not the same show, nor are they on the same
channel.  Nightline comes on every weekday evening at 11:00 PM on ABC.
That's the one with Terry Moran et al., formerly hosted by Ted Koppel.  And
it IS pretty fluffy.  Frontline airs documentaries periodically on PBS.




> As for objectivity, I keep hearing talking heads (including those on PBS)
> mention Chavez' having "lost an election last year," which is NOT true -- a
> referendum that would remove term limits from holding the office of
> president failed. Period. And (of course) Chavez and his supporters accepted
> it (as would a US president or NYC governor, right??)
>

Yes.  But not, for example, Robert Mugabe.  That's precisely the point.



>  Okay, "The Hugo Chavez Show" (a rather insulting title, don't you think??)
>

It's based on the man's own television show that he has in Venezuela.



> is starting now, and we'll see just how fair and balanced it is. Btw, it's
> repeated at 3a Thursday, so set yr VCRs before you go to bed on Wednesday if
> you wanna weigh in on this.
>

Yes.  I dozed through tonight's Frontline but did manage to record it.
Hahahaha!




>  --Jenifer
>
> --- On *Tue, 11/25/08, John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> From: John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Re: Frontline, Venezuela
> To: jencart13 at yahoo.com
> Cc: "David Green" <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>, "Peace Discuss" <
> peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 4:46 PM
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>    John,
>> I think the point of the Counterpunch article is that -- while some of us
>> hope for more objective reporting on PBS than what is typically found in
>> the MSM (which generally disses Venezuela/left-leaning Latin American
>> countries in general and Hugo Chavez in particular) -- the Frontline program
>> ("The Hugo Chavez Show"), to be aired on PBS tonite at 8p, the reporting is
>> anything but objective/pretty much a smear... and author Patrick Irelan
>> muses about the connection between the negative reporting and the fact that
>> PBS is heavily funded by Big Oil (which includes the US- but NOT the
>> Venezuelan oil industry). And, though I haven't seen the program as yet
>> myself, I am wondering right along with him if PBS should not indeed be
>> considered The Petroleum Broadcasting System.
>>
>> And Dave's point (if I may) is that instead of bothering to watch the
>> show, viewers can just find a pinata of Chavez and have at it.
>>  --Jenifer
>>
>
> Thanks, Jen.  Since pinatas are somewhat scarce around these here parts, I
> reckon I'll watch the Hugo Chavez show and form my own conclusions.  I'm
> generally quite satisfied with Frontline.  I'm virtually positive that Hugo
> Chavez will be portrayed as neither all saint nor all sinner, but probably
> more of the former than of the latter.  Which, if portrayed that way, will
> comport with my own opinion of him, which isn't like to change too much in
> any event.
>
> I don't know much about the funding of PBS, but I do know that any station
> which airs Bill Moyers and Independent Lens on a regular basis can't be all
> bad.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>>   --- On *Tue, 11/25/08, John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>> From: John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Re: Frontline, Venezuela
>> To: "David Green" <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "Peace Discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 2:33 PM
>>
>>
>> Gosh, I must be stupid.  I didn't understand the cynicism in the
>> Counterpunch article, and I don't understand it on this list.   It just
>> seems to be generalized cynicism, a propos of nothing.  Whom do we hate
>> here?  Chavez?  Filmmakers who attempt to make films about Chavez?
>> Filmmakers who are not perfectly biased in the precise ways that the
>> Counterpunch author is biased?  What?
>>
>> John Wason
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:22 AM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>   http://www.counterpunch.org/irelan11252008.html
>>>
>>> One might use the time better to build a pinata and pound it with a
>>> baseball bat.
>>>
>>> DG
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>
>>>  Check-out PBS Frontline tomorrow ( Tuesday ) at 8pm, about Hugo Chavez.
>>>
>>> It will probably be the usual PBS hatchet job propoganda, sugar coated in
>>> a fascade of  supposed" intellectual objectivity ", that has the corporate
>>> agenda as it's purpose.
>>>
>>> But it may still be worth a look for curiosity sake.
>>>
>>> David Johnson
>>>
>>> Check-out PBS Frontline tomorrow ( Tuesday ) at 8pm, about Hugo Chavez.
>>>
>>> It will probably be the usual PBS hatchet job propoganda, sugar coated in
>>> a fascade of  supposed" intellectual objectivity ", that has the corporate
>>> agenda as it's purpose.
>>>
>>> But it may still be worth a look for curiosity sake.
>>>
>>> David Johnson
>>>
>>
>
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