[Peace-discuss] senators who voted against the $800 B +++ bailout bill...

[Jenifer Cartwright]

Bob N,
I concede yr point that the protests probably forced Congress to create a 400 page document with more restrictions and safeguards than the original 3 page document that would have given Paulson $700,000 bn with essentially no strings attached and no accountability involved. With such a universal outcry, however, I acually expected that there would be more for the struggling class workers, etc in the bill. But if the protests worked a little this time, they can work a little bit more next time as well. Hope springs eternal. Hell, what else we got, huh?
 --Jenifer

--- On Thu, 10/2/08, Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] senators who voted against the $800 B +++ bailout bill...
To: jencart13 at yahoo.com
Cc: "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>, "E. Wayne Johnson" <ewj at pigs.ag>
Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 1:41 PM

Even if the bill passes, and even if every letter were exactly the
same as what the House rejected on Monday, I think it would be a
mistake to say that protests from the public didn't make any
difference.

The way that this goes through - if it goes through - affects the next
thing that comes down the pike. If the thing gets beat up a lot on the
way, it affects what they propose and do in the future.

When the Clinton Administration asked Congress for $18 billion to
bailout the IMF in 1998, a left-right coalition in Washington fought a
long battle in opposition, even though it was pretty clear that the
fix was in and it would pass eventually, which it finally did, after
many months.

At the beginning of the fight, someone asked Rubin when they would
come back for more money for the IMF. In about five years, he said.
That was 1998. They have not been back since.

As my friend Sam Husseini said when organizing a protest against the
impending US invasion of Afghanistan, "We're always fighting against
the *next* war."

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
> As I understand it (to generalize), the Dems/Indes voting nay wanted the
> bill to have more restrictions and safeguards. The Repubs voting nay
wanted
> the bill to have fewer restrictions and safeguards. The House Repubs
> prevented the bill from passing the first time, so restrictions were
> removed... and then the Senate passed the bill that was closer to the
> original Paulson plan. If the House holds it up, they'll have to
remove even
> more restrictions. Pathetic. And all the protest from the public
didn't make
> much difference at all.
>  --Jenifer
>
> --- On Wed, 10/1/08, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:
>
> From: E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
> Subject: [Peace-discuss] senators who voted against the $800 B +++ bailout
> bill...
> To: ronpaul-305 at meetup.com, republican-637 at meetup.com,
"Peace-discuss"
> <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 10:50 PM
>
> Senators Who Voted Against the Rescue Bill
>
> The modified $700 billion Wall Street rescue bill just passed the Senate
by
> a 74-25 vote. Now it heads to the House; if it passes there, onto
President
> Bush who favors the rescue plan.
> Here is a list of the senators who voted against the rescue bill:
> - Waye Allard (R-Colo.)
> - John Barrasso (R-Wyo.)
> - Sam Brownback (R-Kan.)
> - Jim Bunning (R-Ky.)
> - Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.)
> - Thad Cochran (R-Miss.)
> - Mike Crapo (R-Idaho)
> - Jim DeMint (R-S.C.)
> - Elizabeth Dole (R-N.C.)
> - Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.)
> - Michael Enzi (R-Wyo.)
> - Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.)
> - James Inhofe (R-Okla.)
> - Tim Johnson (D-S.D.)
> - Mary Landrieu (D-La.)
> - Bill Nelson (D-Fla.)
> - Pat Roberts (R-Kan.)
> - Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)
> - Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.)
> - Richard Shelby (R-Ala.)
> - Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.)
> - John Tester (D-Mont.)
> - David Vitter (R-La.)
> - Roger Wicker (R-Miss.)
> - Ron Wyden (D-Ore.)
> Of note:
> - By party, 15 Republicans, nine Democrats and one Independent voted
> against.
> - Both senators from Alabama, Wyoming, Kansas and Mississippi voted
against
> the bill, all Republicans.
>
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