[Peace-discuss] The money was there all along

[Karen Capel]

Jenifer, I wasn't aware that the CU community was doing all that well 
-- or even that it "seemed to be."  The last map of states and metro 
areas I saw listed CU as either already in a state of depression or 
"at risk" for being so. As was Chicago.

Karen


At 02:07 PM 10/18/2008, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
>Karen,
>John gave an excellent answer to my question, but just to clarify...
>I meant enuff to keep the US economy afloat -- maintain the trade 
>balance, or tip it in the US's favor, or whatever it's called. The 
>reason that CU is doing so well economically (or so it seems) is 
>that there is a huge influx of $$$ bro't in from outside the 
>community by undergraduate students... and of course there are all 
>the gov't- and corp-funded grants, etc... another example of the US 
>"selling" education (one of the things on John's list), tho' that 
>mostly moves funds domestically, rather than infusing them from 
>abroad. John also pointed out that in many ways we are less able to 
>compete than we were 30 yrs ago, and I guess, need to find other ways to do so.
>  --Jenifer
>
>
>--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Karen Capel <kcapel at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>From: Karen Capel <kcapel at sbcglobal.net>
>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] The money was there all along
>To: jencart13 at yahoo.com
>Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 1:18 PM
>
>
>Enough for what, Jenifer?  To keep some kind of "balance"?  My (very
>basic and woefully inadequate) understanding of this is that whatever
>isn't sold directly is used indirectly to make other govts war with
>each other and to keep 'em in line so that they support, or at least
>don't go against too seriously, US policies.  Coercion (at the end of
>a gun) to make the rest of the world float our worthless paper is
>about the size of it, I guess.  Pretty sad state of affairs.  There's
>good reason for the rest of the world to hate Bush et al. -- and this
>country overall too.
>
>Karen
>
>
>At 01:00 PM 10/17/2008, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> >Good point, Karen. And at the rate the world is going, that's one
> >bubble (selling of arms abroad) that isn't likely to burst. But is
> >that enuff, w/ all our other manufacturing jobs exported (and which
> >ain't comin' back)?
> >  --Jenifer
> >
> >--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Karen Capel <kcapel at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >From: Karen Capel <kcapel at sbcglobal.net>
> >Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] The money was there all along
> >To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
> >Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> >Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 12:07 PM
> >
> >
> >Jenifer said:
> >"I have been wondering lately if the US produces anything to sell
> >abroad anymore...."
> >
> >Yes, Jenifer, there is.  Think: "the machinery of war."
> >
> >Karen
> >
> >
> > >Message: 1
> > >Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:38:06 -0700 (PDT)
> > >From: Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] The money was there all along
> > >To: "John W." <jbw292002 at gmail.com>, "E. Wayne
> >Johnson" <ewj at pigs.ag>
> > >Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> > >
> > >
> > >I have been wondering lately if the US produces anything to sell
> > >abroad anymore, now that the service industry has replaced
> > >manufacturing re providing jobs. Agricultural products, I guess...
> > >at least until somebody figures out how to turn wheat and soybeans
> > >into gasoline.
> > >  --Jenifer
> > >
> > >--- On Fri, 10/17/08, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:
> > >
> > >From: E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
> > >Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] The money was there all along
> > >To: "John W." <jbw292002 at gmail.com>
> > >Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> > >Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 5:01 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >Yes.
> > >
> > >But that's hard work sometimes.  :)
> > >
> > >John W. wrote:
> > >
> > >Well, either way - borrowing the money or "printing" it -
> >it's
> > >fiscally irresponsible and unsustainable.  That was my point.  A
> > >viable economy has to be based on ACTUAL productivity - making REAL
> > >things that the world needs - and not just on shuffling papers
> > >around to create the illusion of prosperity.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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