[Peace-discuss] Fw: Re: Ralph Nader: Tragedy to Farce

[C. G. Estabrook]

Tom is certainly right, and his opinion is to be preferred to that of Fallows, a
rather right-wing Democrat.

I favored the "safe states" strategy in 2004 and so will probably vote for Ralph
(for the fourth time) in the 2008 election.  --CGE

Tom Abram wrote:
> Nader is magnitudes less to blame for the Iraq War than the Democrats who
> actually voted to authorize force and continue to fund the occupation.
> Claiming his participation in the electoral process as a non-corporate party
> candidate to be a farce is nothing less than political bigotry.  I will be
> voting for the Green's candidate, Cynthia McKinney, but I still support
> Nader's right to run, attain ballot access, and enter the debates.  I wish
> others would have the same respect for an open democracy.
> 
> Tom
> 
> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:jencart13 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> A kinder gentler view of Nader than my own... --Jenifer
> 
> --- On *Sun, 9/7/08, Helene Feiner * wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm so upset with Nader. This presidential election monkey wrenching has sure
> changed my opinion of him. I agree that our system needs to be changed but
> not by essentially throwing support to the Republicans. This reporter echoes
> how I feel about him.
> 
> By James Fallows Ralph Nader: tragedy to farce
> 
> 24 Feb 2008 11:00 am
> 
> I have liked and admired Ralph Nader so much. I first worked for him when I
> was in my teens (and he was in his 30s). Under his auspices, encouragement,
> and relentless pressure, I'd written two books for his organization by the
> time I was 23 -- if only I'd been able to keep up that pace! Or that sales
> success, since one of them -- Who Runs Congress, turned out in eight weeks,
> with Mark Green and David Zwick --- eventually sold in the millions.
> 
> Nader was funny, warm, brilliant-seeming, and, yes, caring. He visited my
> wife in the hospital after our first child was born. For years after that, he
> never failed to ask about both of our kids (or my wife) whenever I talked
> with him. I say all this as an indication of why Ralph Nader has so many
> people who actually are loyal to him -- and who wish they didn't have to face
> the reality about the choices he has made over the last eight years.
> 
> That he stayed in the race in 2000 was tragedy. (See: Invasion of Iraq, 2003,
> and subsequent occupation.) That he came back in 2004 was unfortunate; his
> entry in 2008 is farce. Farce because it suggests detachment from political
> reality (the differences between the Republican and Democratic nominees are
> so faint that we can say, What the hell!) and, worse, narcissism. The fact
> that it won't make any difference in the outcome actually is sad.
> 
> I will always like and respect Ralph Nader and will always admire the 
> wonderful things he has done. But I wish to God that he had not made this
> decision, or will reverse it soon. (And, I am sorry that saying this will
> make me an enemy in his eyes.) He is a better man than his recent decisions
> indicate.
> 
> 
> 
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