[Peace-discuss] A view from the UK
C. G. Estabrook
galliher at uiuc.edu
Mon Sep 15 12:10:57 CDT 2008
Isolationism has meant the much-pilloried and much-misunderstood anti-war
position of the American 1930s, and it would be good if Palin shared it -- at
least as Wayne says to the point of being non-interventionist.
And I was not predicting what the McCain campaign would do. I was pointing out
that -- given the possibility Paul Street noted a month ago, viz. "With a large
part of the citizenry supporting serious progressive change in the wake of the
hard-right Cheney-Bush nightmare, Obama's corporate-imperial centrism could end
up costing him the White House" -- it might aid McCain with the voters to take
up the opposition to the war that Obama only pretended to hold, as that pretense
became clearer. --CGE
Brussel Morton K. wrote:
> I believe that the author meant by the word "isolationism" that she was
> isolated from the views of the rest of the globe's peoples and opinions.
> Only this makes sense to me: I don't think that the author of the quote
> is stupid.
>
> And anyone who could think that McCain would possibly have been an
> anti-war candidate is seriously misinformed, or unbalanced. --mkb
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2008, at 10:18 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>
>> [Palin has little or nothing to do with isolationism, in any sense.
>> Would that she did: I've thought for a while that McCain could win as
>> an anti-war candidate, but that's now looking to be unnecessary, as
>> Obama's pro-war position becomes more and more obvious. Here below is
>> another view from the UK, sounder as it seems to me, although the last
>> two paragraphs are blather. --CGE]
>>
>> Democratic activists should stop digging
>> By Clive Crook
>> Published: September 14 2008 20:00
>>
>> If Barack Obama loses this election to John McCain – something which,
>> for the first time, I regard as a real possibility – history will
>> point to August 29 as the pivotal moment. That was when Mr McCain
>> announced that Sarah Palin would be his running-mate, and when livid
>> Democrats and their friends in the media voiced their feelings about
>> her and much of the electorate, and gravely harmed their candidate’s
>> prospects.
>>
>> For Mr McCain to win the election against the odds that faced him
>> pre-Palin – with the economy in the tank and the incumbent Republican
>> president setting records for unpopularity – would be sensational
>> enough. For this to happen because of his vice-presidential pick, a
>> decision that is usually of next to no consequence, beggars belief.
>> The Democrats had to bring all their resources to getting themselves
>> into this fix. They proved equal to the task.
>>
>> As I argued last week, Mr Obama’s own initial reaction to the Palin
>> nomination was exactly right. All the party had to do was follow his
>> lead. Mr Obama, in effect, would give her enough rope; her
>> inadequacies would reveal themselves in due course; it cost nothing,
>> in the meantime, to be courteous, and to keep pressing on the issues,
>> where the Democrats still enjoy an advantage with most voters. Ms
>> Palin’s first television interview last week, an adequate but far from
>> stellar performance, affirmed the wisdom of that course.
>>
>> But the Democratic talking-heads had to exult in their disdain for Ms
>> Palin and all she represents – namely, a good part of the electorate
>> whose support Mr Obama needs. In the space of a few days, they
>> irreversibly damaged Mr Obama’s candidacy and transformed this election.
>>
>> Subsequent developments reflect poorly on both parties, in my view.
>> Are the Democrats learning, and trying to correct their error? No, for
>> the most part, just the opposite. Are the Republicans pressing their
>> advantage with a confident, principled campaign focused on the issues
>> that matter? Again, no.
>>
>> Certainly, the Democrats can see they are in a hole. Somehow, though,
>> the word has gone out: “Keep digging.” Mr Obama is also urged to be
>> less cool and lose his temper. Voters adore an angry candidate, you
>> see. “Dig faster, and be more angry,” is the advice coming down from
>> the political geniuses who decided it was a fine idea to laugh at Ms
>> Palin in the first place. A recurring television image in the past few
>> days has been the split-screen contrast between a serenely smiling
>> Republican operative and a fulminating red-faced Democrat about to
>> have a stroke.
>>
>> Efforts to smear the governor proceed at a frantic pace. My guess
>> would be that there are now more journalists on assignment in Alaska
>> than bothered to turn up for the Republican convention in St Paul,
>> sifting through dustbins, interrogating Palin family acquaintances
>> (extra credit for those with a grievance) and subjecting Ms Palin’s
>> expenses claims to a fanatical scrutiny which I dare say their own
>> record-keeping, or that of most senators, might not withstand.
>>
>> Of course, they will find things. They may even find something
>> important. But the sheer swarming zeal for trivial malfeasance and
>> family embarrassments is rapidly raising the bar for impropriety. I
>> think that many voters – and not just committed Republicans – find
>> this whole spectacle disgusting, so on top of everything else Ms Palin
>> is now getting a sympathy vote.
>>
>> Among seasoned Democratic politicians, the picture is more mixed. Joe
>> Biden, the vice-presidential nominee, appears to get it. His stump
>> speech has started to include obliging remarks about Ms Palin, which
>> suggests he is approaching the forthcoming television debate in the
>> correct frame of mind. If he can stay polite and respectful while
>> laying bare the gaps in Ms Palin’s knowledge and experience, and by
>> highlighting her positions on social issues, which are unappealing to
>> many centrists, he can undo some of the damage of recent days.
>>
>> But compare this with the comment of Carol Fowler, chairman of the
>> South Carolina Democratic party, who said late last week that Ms
>> Palin’s main qualification for office was that she has not had an
>> abortion. Brilliant! Even now, with the polls giving their verdict,
>> there is much more like that. And Democrats wonder why they cannot get
>> the debate back on to their issues.
>>
>> Republicans are not going to help them do it while things are going so
>> well for them. This may be understandable, but let us be clear – this
>> is not to their credit. If Mr McCain were the kind of leader he claims
>> to be, he would want to be elected for his platform. His policy
>> proposals, not his vapid commitment to “change Washington”, would be
>> to the fore. More than this, he would also want to bind the country
>> together, and restore its moral strength and sense of purpose. He
>> would strive to be a unifier. Mr Obama makes that claim, with seeming
>> sincerity, and it is the best thing about his candidacy.
>>
>> Democrats will deny it, but they opened this new front in the culture
>> war by their response to the Palin nomination. The mess they are in is
>> their own fault. They still seem intent on driving significant numbers
>> of women and moderates over to the other side and Mr McCain’s
>> political instinct is doubtless to help this rift in the electorate
>> widen further. It could be a winning strategy. But good politics is
>> not the same thing as responsible leadership. I intend it as a
>> compliment to Mr McCain when I say that if his means to victory in
>> this election is to divide the country, it is a victory he should not
>> want.
>>
>> Send your comments to clive.crook at gmail.com
>> Read and post comments at Clive Crook’s Washington Blog
>> Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2008
>>
>> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0be814b0-828b-11dd-a019-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1
>>
>>
>>
>> Brussel Morton K. wrote:
>>> From http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/09/14-3
>>> …
>>> Ms Palin is a symbol of deep American introversion, of the fact that
>>> you have
>>> ceased to take yourselves seriously and, more important, don't much
>>> care who
>>> knows it. Arguments over the relationship between the wider world and
>>> your
>>> choices have become irrelevant. You have detached yourself, finally,
>>> from the
>>> global community. This is isolationism as never before conceived.
>>> "American"
>>> in my life has been lingua franca, for better or ill. Now you talk to
>>> yourself.
>>> And you talk, my friends, in the sort of gibberish that once you
>>> spurned.
>>> It's not about Ms Palin, as such. It is about the process that creates a
>>> candidate-grin manipulated to serve darkness, ignorance, fear, a war
>>> economy,
>>> and the flaunting of stupidity.
>>> Nice going.
>>
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