[Peace-discuss] Message from Redneckia
E. Wayne Johnson
ewj at pigs.ag
Wed Sep 17 21:06:28 CDT 2008
Not actually the same Jennifer.
Hillbillies generally are considered to have a somewhat primitive woodsy
lifestyle
whereas Rednecks might live in brick houses and have 4x4 pickup trucks
with big tires on them.
I have a friend who has pretty much by choice become a hillbilly but he
is no redneck.
Not all rednecks are neocons, but Sarah Palin is sho' 'nuff is a Neo-Con.
Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> According to Wikipedia, the terms are pretty much interchangeable.
> http://en.wikipedia..org/wiki/Hillbilly
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillbilly>
> --Jenifer
>
> --- On *Wed, 9/17/08, LAURIE /<LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET>/* wrote:
>
> From: LAURIE <LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET>
> Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Message from Redneckia
> To: "'Marti Wilkinson'" <martiwilki at gmail.com>,
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 4:40 PM
>
> I heard another story as to the derivation of the term “redneck”
> in which it came from the red sun burned back of the neck that
> characterized the sharecroppers and farmers that populated the
> South – for the most part – and who came from Scots Irish
> families who were sent to the South by Britain as prisoners,
> indentured servants, etc. as punishment and as a way to rid
> Britain of them.
>
>
>
> Obviously, ‘rednecks” are not identical with “hillbillies.”
>
>
>
> *From:* peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net
> [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] *On Behalf Of
> *Marti Wilkinson
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 14, 2008 6:55 PM
> *To:* Ron Szoke
> *Cc:* peace-discuss; C. G. Estabrook
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Message from Redneckia
>
>
>
> Here is an interesting play on how the term 'redneck' can be
> perceived.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain
> <http://en..wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Ron Szoke <r-szoke at illinois.edu
> <mailto:r-szoke at illinois.edu>> wrote:
>
>
> Why rednecks may rule the world
> By Joe Bageant
> Author of Deerhunting With Jesus
>
> During this US election cycle we are hearing a lot from the
> pundits and
> candidates about "heartland voters," and "white working class voters."
>
> What they are talking about are rednecks. But in their political
> correctness,
> media types cannot bring themselves to utter the word "redneck."
> So I'll say it
> for them: redneck-redneck-redneck-redneck.
>
> The fact is that we American rednecks embrace the term in a sort
> of proud
> defiance. To us, the term redneck indicates a culture we were born
> in and enjoy.
> So I find it very interesting that politically correct people have
> taken it upon
> themselves to protect us from what has come to be one of our own
> warm and
> light hearted terms for one another.
>
> On the other hand, I can quite imagine their concern, given what's
> at stake in
> the upcoming election. We represent at least a third of all voters
> and no US
> president has ever been elected without our support.
>
> Consequently, rednecks have never had so many friends or so much
> attention
> as in 2008. Contrary to the stereotype, we are not all tobacco
> chewing,
> guffawing Southerners, but are scattered from coast to coast. Over
> 50% of us
> live in the "cultural south", which is to say places with white
> Southern Scots-
> Irish values - redneck values..
>
> They include western Pennsylvania, central Missouri and southern
> Illinois,
> upstate Michigan and Minnesota, eastern Connecticut, northern New
> Hampshire…
> So when you look at what pundits call the red state heartland, you
> are looking
> at the Republic of Redneckia.
>
> As to having our delicate beer-sodden feelings protected from the term
> redneck; well, I appreciate the effort, though I highly suspect
> that the best way
> to hide snobbishness is to pose as protector of any class of folks
> you cannot
> bear. Thus we are being protected by the very people who look down
> on us -
> educated urban progressives.
>
> And let's face it, there's plenty to look down on. By any tasteful
> standard, we
> ain't a pretty people.
>
> Uppity and slick? Not us...
>
> We come in one size: extra large. We are sometimes insolent and
> often quick to
> fight. We love competitive spectacle such as NASCAR and paintball,
> and believe
> gun ownership is the eleventh commandment.
>
> We fry things nobody ever considered friable - things like
> cupcakes, banana
> sandwiches and batter dipped artificial cheese…even pickles.
>
> And most of all we are defiant and suspicious of authority, and
> people who are
> "uppity" (sophisticated) and "slick" (people who use words with
> more than three
> syllables). Two should be enough for anybody.
>
> And that is one of the reasons that, mystifying as it is to the
> outside world, John
> McCain's choice of the moose-shooting Alaskan woman with the pregnant
> unmarried teen daughter appeals to many redneck and working class
> Americans.
>
> We all understand that there is a political class which dominates
> in America, and
> that Sarah Palin for damned sure is not one of them. And the more
> she is
> attacked by liberal Democratic elements (translation: elite
> highly-educated big
> city people) the more America's working mooks will come to her
> defence. Her
> daughter had a baby out of wedlock? Big deal. What family has not?
> She is a
> Christian fundamentalist who believes God spat on his beefy paws
> and made the
> world in seven days? So do at least 150 million other Americans. She
> snowmobiles and fishes and she is a looker to boot. She's a redneck.
>
> American ethos
>
> The term redneck indicates a lifestyle and culture that can be
> found in every
> state in our union. The essentials of redneck culture were brought
> to America by
> what we call the Scots Irish, after first being shipped to the
> Ulster Plantation,
> where our, uh, remarkable cultural legacy can still be seen every
> 12 July in
> Ireland.
>
> Ultimately, the Scots Irish have had more of an effect on the
> American ethos
> than any other immigrant group. Here are a few you will recognize:
>
> ~ Belief that no law is above God's law, not even the US
> Constitution.
>
> ~ Hyper patriotism. A fighting defence of native land, home and
> heart, even
> when it is not actually threatened: ie, Iraq, Panama, Grenada,
> Somalia, Cuba,
> Nicaragua, Vietnam, Haiti and dozens more with righteous
> operations titles such
> as Enduring Freedom, Restore Hope, and Just Cause.
>
> ~ A love of guns and tremendous respect for the warrior ideal.
> Along with this
> comes a strong sense of fealty and loyalty. Fealty to wartime
> leaders, whether it
> be FDR or George Bush.
>
> ~ Self effacement, humility. We are usually the butt of our own
> jokes, in an
> effort not to appear aloof among one another.
>
> ~ Belief that most things outside our own community and nation
> are inferior
> and threatening, that the world is jealous of the American lifestyle.
>
> ~ Personal pride in equality. No man, however rich or powerful,
> is better than
> me.
>
> ~ Perseverance and belief in hard work. If a man or a family is
> poor, it is
> because they did not work hard enough. God rewards those who work hard
> enough. So does the American system.
>
> ~ The only free country in the world is the United States, and
> the only reason we
> ever go to war is to protect that freedom.
>
> All this has become so deeply instilled as to now be reflexive. It
> represents
> many of the worst traits in American culture and a few of the best.
>
> And that has every thinking person here in the US, except perhaps
> John McCain
> and Sarah Palin, worried.
>
> Very worried.
>
> -- Story from BBC NEWS:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-
> /today/hi/today/newsid_7600000/7600592.stm
> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/today/hi/today/newsid_7600000/7600592.stm>
> Published: 2008/09/06 09:39:12 GMT © BBC MMVIII
>
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