[Peace-discuss] Message from Redneckia

E. Wayne Johnson ewj at pigs.ag
Wed Sep 17 22:32:55 CDT 2008


its really more info than I wanted... 

Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> And Sarah Palin has her own tanning bed so that she's tan all over 
> instead of being a redneck.
>
> --- On *Wed, 9/17/08, E. Wayne Johnson /<ewj at pigs.ag>/* wrote:
>
>     From: E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
>     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Message from Redneckia
>     To: jencart13 at yahoo.com
>     Cc: "'Marti Wilkinson'" <martiwilki at gmail.com>,
>     peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net, "LAURIE" <LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET>
>     Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 9:06 PM
>
>     Not actually the same Jennifer. 
>
>     Hillbillies generally are considered to have a somewhat primitive
>     woodsy lifestyle
>     whereas Rednecks might live in brick houses and have 4x4 pickup
>     trucks with big tires on them.
>
>     I have a friend who has pretty much by choice become a hillbilly
>     but he is no redneck.
>
>     Not all rednecks are neocons, but Sarah Palin is sho' 'nuff is a
>     Neo-Con.
>
>     Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
>>     According to Wikipedia, the terms are pretty much interchangeable.
>>     http://en.wikipedia..org/wiki/Hillbilly
>>     <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillbilly>
>>      --Jenifer
>>
>>     --- On *Wed, 9/17/08, LAURIE /<LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET>/* wrote:
>>
>>         From: LAURIE <LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET>
>>         Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Message from Redneckia
>>         To: "'Marti Wilkinson'" <martiwilki at gmail.com>,
>>         peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>>         Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 4:40 PM
>>
>>         I heard another story as to the derivation of the term
>>         “redneck” in which it came from the red  sun burned back of
>>         the neck that characterized the sharecroppers and farmers
>>         that populated the South – for the most part – and who  came
>>         from Scots Irish families who were sent to the South by
>>         Britain as prisoners, indentured servants, etc. as punishment
>>         and as a way to rid Britain of them.
>>
>>          
>>
>>         Obviously, ‘rednecks” are not identical with “hillbillies.”
>>
>>          
>>
>>         *From:* peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net
>>         [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] *On Behalf
>>         Of *Marti Wilkinson
>>         *Sent:* Sunday, September 14, 2008 6:55 PM
>>         *To:* Ron Szoke
>>         *Cc:* peace-discuss; C. G. Estabrook
>>         *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Message from Redneckia
>>
>>          
>>
>>         Here is an interesting play on how the term 'redneck' can be
>>         perceived.
>>
>>         http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain
>>         <http://en...wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain>
>>
>>
>>         On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Ron Szoke
>>         <r-szoke at illinois.edu <mailto:r-szoke at illinois.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         Why rednecks may rule the world
>>         By Joe Bageant
>>         Author of Deerhunting With Jesus
>>
>>         During this US election cycle we are hearing a lot from the
>>         pundits and
>>         candidates about "heartland voters," and "white working class
>>         voters."
>>
>>         What they are talking about are rednecks. But in their
>>         political correctness,
>>         media types cannot bring themselves to utter the word
>>         "redneck." So I'll say it
>>         for them: redneck-redneck-redneck-redneck.
>>
>>         The fact is that we American rednecks embrace the term in a
>>         sort of proud
>>         defiance. To us, the term redneck indicates a culture we were
>>         born in and enjoy.
>>         So I find it very interesting that politically correct people
>>         have taken it upon
>>         themselves to protect us from what has come to be one of our
>>         own warm and
>>         light hearted terms for one another.
>>
>>         On the other hand, I can quite imagine their concern, given
>>         what's at stake in
>>         the upcoming election. We represent at least a third of all
>>         voters and no US
>>         president has ever been elected without our support.
>>
>>         Consequently, rednecks have never had so many friends or so
>>         much attention
>>         as in 2008. Contrary to the stereotype, we are not all
>>         tobacco chewing,
>>         guffawing Southerners, but are scattered from coast to coast.
>>         Over 50% of us
>>         live in the "cultural south", which is to say places with
>>         white Southern Scots-
>>         Irish values - redneck values...
>>
>>         They include western Pennsylvania, central Missouri and
>>         southern Illinois,
>>         upstate Michigan and Minnesota, eastern Connecticut, northern
>>         New Hampshire…
>>         So when you look at what pundits call the red state
>>         heartland, you are looking
>>         at the Republic of Redneckia.
>>
>>         As to having our delicate beer-sodden feelings protected from
>>         the term
>>         redneck; well, I appreciate the effort, though I highly
>>         suspect that the best way
>>         to hide snobbishness is to pose as protector of any class of
>>         folks you cannot
>>         bear. Thus we are being protected by the very people who look
>>         down on us -
>>         educated urban progressives.
>>
>>         And let's face it, there's plenty to look down on. By any
>>         tasteful standard, we
>>         ain't a pretty people.
>>
>>         Uppity and slick? Not us...
>>
>>         We come in one size: extra large. We are sometimes insolent
>>         and often quick to
>>         fight. We love competitive spectacle such as NASCAR and
>>         paintball, and believe
>>         gun ownership is the eleventh commandment.
>>
>>         We fry things nobody ever considered friable - things like
>>         cupcakes, banana
>>         sandwiches and batter dipped artificial cheese…even pickles.
>>
>>         And most of all we are defiant and suspicious of authority,
>>         and people who are
>>         "uppity" (sophisticated) and "slick" (people who use words
>>         with more than three
>>         syllables). Two should be enough for anybody.
>>
>>         And that is one of the reasons that, mystifying as it is to
>>         the outside world, John
>>         McCain's choice of the moose-shooting Alaskan woman with the
>>         pregnant
>>         unmarried teen daughter appeals to many redneck and working class
>>         Americans.
>>
>>         We all understand that there is a political class which
>>         dominates in America, and
>>         that Sarah Palin for damned sure is not one of them. And the
>>         more she is
>>         attacked by liberal Democratic elements (translation: elite
>>         highly-educated big
>>         city people) the more America's working mooks will come to
>>         her defence. Her
>>         daughter had a baby out of wedlock? Big deal. What family has
>>         not? She is a
>>         Christian fundamentalist who believes God spat on his beefy
>>         paws and made the
>>         world in seven days? So do at least 150 million other
>>         Americans. She
>>         snowmobiles and fishes and she is a looker to boot. She's a
>>         redneck.
>>
>>         American ethos
>>
>>         The term redneck indicates a lifestyle and culture that can
>>         be found in every
>>         state in our union. The essentials of redneck culture were
>>         brought to America by
>>         what we call the Scots Irish, after first being shipped to
>>         the Ulster Plantation,
>>         where our, uh, remarkable cultural legacy can still be seen
>>         every 12 July in
>>         Ireland.
>>
>>         Ultimately, the Scots Irish have had more of an effect on the
>>         American ethos
>>         than any other immigrant group. Here are a few you will
>>         recognize:
>>
>>         ~  Belief that no law is above God's law, not even the US
>>         Constitution.
>>
>>         ~  Hyper patriotism. A fighting defence of native land, home
>>         and heart, even
>>         when it is not actually threatened: ie, Iraq, Panama,
>>         Grenada, Somalia, Cuba,
>>         Nicaragua, Vietnam, Haiti and dozens more with righteous
>>         operations titles such
>>         as Enduring Freedom, Restore Hope, and Just Cause.
>>
>>         ~  A love of guns and tremendous respect for the warrior
>>         ideal. Along with this
>>         comes a strong sense of fealty and loyalty. Fealty to wartime
>>         leaders, whether it
>>         be FDR or George Bush.
>>
>>         ~  Self effacement, humility. We are usually the butt of our
>>         own jokes, in an
>>         effort not to appear aloof among one another.
>>
>>         ~  Belief that most things outside our own community and
>>         nation are inferior
>>         and threatening, that the world is jealous of the American
>>         lifestyle.
>>
>>         ~  Personal pride in equality. No man, however rich or
>>         powerful, is better than
>>         me.
>>
>>         ~  Perseverance and belief in hard work. If a man or a family
>>         is poor, it is
>>         because they did not work hard enough. God rewards those who
>>         work hard
>>         enough. So does the American system.
>>
>>         ~  The only free country in the world is the United States,
>>         and the only reason we
>>         ever go to war is to protect that freedom.
>>
>>         All this has become so deeply instilled as to now be
>>         reflexive. It represents
>>         many of the worst traits in American culture and a few of the
>>         best.
>>
>>         And that has every thinking person here in the US, except
>>         perhaps John McCain
>>         and Sarah Palin, worried.
>>
>>         Very worried.
>>
>>          --  Story from BBC NEWS:
>>         http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-
>>         /today/hi/today/newsid_7600000/7600592.stm
>>         <http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/today/hi/today/newsid_7600000/7600592.stm>
>>         Published: 2008/09/06 09:39:12 GMT  © BBC MMVIII
>>
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