[Peace-discuss] A curious report

John W. jbw292002 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 10 11:23:44 CDT 2009


It's not hard for me to comprehend at all.  The Bible prophecies are real
enough, and will come to pass.  But it was obvious to me from Jump Street
that Bush and the neocons were fools who should never have been put in
charge of a small-town city council, let alone American foreign policy.
Genuine revelation from God is quite rare, and carries with it tremendous,
awesome responsibility to be rightly applied.  It is not to be taken lightly
or cavalierly.  Bush, at any rate, didn't have any genuine revelation from
God, merely his own myopic hubris.

John Wason



On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Morton K. Brussel <brussel at illinois.edu>wrote:

It's hard to know what to make of this; it is truly bizarre. Perhaps it
> simply adds to the other motives the U.S. had in invading Iraq—geostrategic
> importance, oil, …
> *James A. Haught is the editor of the* Charleston Gazette *(West Virginia)
> and a* Free Inquiry<http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=fi&page=index>
> *senior editor.  *
> **--mkb
> A French Revelation, or The Burning Bush JAMES A. HAUGHT
>
> Incredibly, President George W. Bush told French President Jacques Chirac
> in early 2003 that Iraq must be invaded to thwart Gog and Magog, the Bible’s
> satanic agents of the Apocalypse.
>
> Honest. This isn’t a joke. The president of the United States, in a
> top-secret phone call to a major European ally, asked for French troops to
> join American soldiers in attacking Iraq as a mission from God.
>
> Now out of office, Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to
> their “common faith” (Christianity) and told him: “Gog and Magog are at work
> in the Middle East…. The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled…. This
> confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his
> people’s enemies before a New Age begins.”
>
> This bizarre episode occurred while the White House was assembling its
> “coalition of the willing” to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was
> boggled by Bush’s call and “wondered how someone could be so superficial and
> fanatical in their beliefs.”
>
> After the 2003 call, the puzzled French leader didn’t comply with Bush’s
> request. Instead, his staff asked Thomas Romer, a theologian at the
> University of Lausanne, to analyze the weird appeal. Dr. Romer explained
> that the Old Testament book of Ezekiel contains two chapters (38 and 39) in
> which God rages against Gog and Magog, sinister and mysterious forces
> menacing Israel. Jehovah vows to smite them savagely, to “turn thee back,
> and put hooks into thy jaws,” and slaughter them ruthlessly. In the New
> Testament, the mystical book of Revelation envisions Gog and Magog gathering
> nations for battle, “and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured
> them.”
>
> In 2007, Dr. Romer recounted Bush’s strange behavior in Lausanne
> University’s review, *Allez Savoir*. A French-language Swiss newspaper, *Le
> Matin Dimanche*, printed a sarcastic account titled: “When President
> George W. Bush Saw the Prophesies of the Bible Coming to Pass.” France’s *La
> Liberte* likewise spoofed it under the headline “A Small Scoop on Bush,
> Chirac, God, Gog and Magog.” But other news media missed the amazing report.
>
> Subsequently, ex-President Chirac confirmed the nutty event in a long
> interview with French journalist Jean-Claude Maurice, who tells the tale in
> his new book, *Si Vous le Répétez, Je Démentirai (If You Repeat it, I Will
> Deny)*, released in March by the publisher Plon.
>
> Oddly, mainstream media are ignoring this alarming revelation that Bush may
> have been half-cracked when he started his Iraq war. My own paper, *The
> Charleston Gazette* in West Virginia, is the only U.S. newspaper to report
> it so far. Canada’s *Toronto Star* recounted the story, calling it a
> “stranger-than-fiction disclosure … which suggests that apocalyptic fervor
> may have held sway within the walls of the White House.” Fortunately, online
> commentary sites are spreading the news, filling the press void.
>
> The French revelation jibes with other known aspects of Bush’s renowned
> evangelical certitude. For example, a few months after his phone call to
> Chirac, Bush attended a 2003 summit in Egypt. The Palestinian foreign
> minister later said the American president told him he was “on a mission
> from God” to defeat Iraq. At that time, the White House called this claim
> “absurd.”
>
> Recently, *GQ* magazine revealed that former Defense Secretary Donald
> Rumsfeld attached warlike Bible verses and Iraq battle photos to war reports
> he hand-delivered to Bush. One declared: “Put on the full armor of God, so
> that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground.”
>
> It’s awkward to say openly, but now-departed President Bush is a religious
> crackpot, an ex-drunk of small intellect who “got saved.” He never should
> have been entrusted with the power to start wars.
>
> For six years, Americans really haven’t known why he launched the
> unnecessary Iraq attack. Official pretexts turned out to be baseless. Iraq
> had no weapons of mass destruction after all, and wasn’t in league with
> terrorists, as the White House alleged. Collapse of his asserted reasons led
> to speculation about hidden motives: Was the invasion loosed to gain control
> of Iraq’s oil—or to protect Israel—or to complete Bush’s father’s vendetta
> against the late dictator Saddam Hussein? Nobody ever found an answer.
>
> Now, added to the other suspicions, comes the goofy possibility that
> abstruse, supernatural, idiotic, laughable Bible prophecies were a factor.
> This casts an ominous pall over the needless war that has killed more than
> four thousand young Americans and cost U.S. taxpayers perhaps $1 trillion.
>
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