[Peace-discuss] A curious report

John W. jbw292002 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 10 15:34:12 CDT 2009


On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>wrote:

Omg, I LOVE this report!! THANK YOU, Mort, for posting it!!
>
> Uh, John: re biblical prophesies being real enuff and coming to pass: Is
> that like monkeys + typewriters + infinity = all of Shakespeare's writings??
>

No, not even remotely.



> And Jump Street? That's a biblical reference I'm not familiar with...
>

That's because (a) you don't read the Bible, and (b) it's not in there.
Occasionally the Lord lets me speak in colloquial English rather than the
usual King James.  :-)




>  --Jenifer
>
> --- On *Mon, 8/10/09, John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] A curious report
> To: "Morton K. Brussel" <brussel at illinois.edu>
> Cc: "peace-discuss Discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 11:23 AM
>
>
> It's not hard for me to comprehend at all.  The Bible prophecies are real
> enough, and will come to pass.  But it was obvious to me from Jump Street
> that Bush and the neocons were fools who should never have been put in
> charge of a small-town city council, let alone American foreign policy.
> Genuine revelation from God is quite rare, and carries with it tremendous,
> awesome responsibility to be rightly applied.  It is not to be taken lightly
> or cavalierly.  Bush, at any rate, didn't have any genuine revelation from
> God, merely his own myopic hubris.
>
> John Wason
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Morton K. Brussel <brussel at illinois.edu<http://us.mc449.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=brussel@illinois.edu>
> > wrote:
>
>  It's hard to know what to make of this; it is truly bizarre. Perhaps it
>> simply adds to the other motives the U.S. had in invading Iraq—geostrategic
>> importance, oil, …
>> *James A. Haught is the editor of the* Charleston Gazette *(West
>> Virginia) and a* Free Inquiry<http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=fi&page=index>
>> *senior editor.  *
>> **--mkb
>>  A French Revelation, or The Burning Bush JAMES A. HAUGHT Incredibly,
>> President George W. Bush told French President Jacques Chirac in early 2003
>> that Iraq must be invaded to thwart Gog and Magog, the Bible’s satanic
>> agents of the Apocalypse.
>> Honest. This isn’t a joke. The president of the United States, in a
>> top-secret phone call to a major European ally, asked for French troops to
>> join American soldiers in attacking Iraq as a mission from God.
>> Now out of office, Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to
>> their “common faith” (Christianity) and told him: “Gog and Magog are at work
>> in the Middle East…. The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled…. This
>> confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his
>> people’s enemies before a New Age begins.”
>> This bizarre episode occurred while the White House was assembling its
>> “coalition of the willing” to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was
>> boggled by Bush’s call and “wondered how someone could be so superficial and
>> fanatical in their beliefs.”
>> After the 2003 call, the puzzled French leader didn’t comply with Bush’s
>> request. Instead, his staff asked Thomas Romer, a theologian at the
>> University of Lausanne, to analyze the weird appeal. Dr. Romer explained
>> that the Old Testament book of Ezekiel contains two chapters (38 and 39) in
>> which God rages against Gog and Magog, sinister and mysterious forces
>> menacing Israel. Jehovah vows to smite them savagely, to “turn thee back,
>> and put hooks into thy jaws,” and slaughter them ruthlessly. In the New
>> Testament, the mystical book of Revelation envisions Gog and Magog gathering
>> nations for battle, “and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured
>> them.”
>> In 2007, Dr. Romer recounted Bush’s strange behavior in Lausanne
>> University’s review, *Allez Savoir*. A French-language Swiss newspaper, *Le
>> Matin Dimanche*, printed a sarcastic account titled: “When President
>> George W. Bush Saw the Prophesies of the Bible Coming to Pass.” France’s
>> *La Liberte* likewise spoofed it under the headline “A Small Scoop on
>> Bush, Chirac, God, Gog and Magog.” But other news media missed the amazing
>> report.
>> Subsequently, ex-President Chirac confirmed the nutty event in a long
>> interview with French journalist Jean-Claude Maurice, who tells the tale in
>> his new book, *Si Vous le Répétez, Je Démentirai (If You Repeat it, I
>> Will Deny)*, released in March by the publisher Plon.
>> Oddly, mainstream media are ignoring this alarming revelation that Bush
>> may have been half-cracked when he started his Iraq war. My own paper, *The
>> Charleston Gazette* in West Virginia, is the only U.S. newspaper to
>> report it so far. Canada’s *Toronto Star* recounted the story, calling it
>> a “stranger-than-fiction disclosure … which suggests that apocalyptic fervor
>> may have held sway within the walls of the White House.” Fortunately, online
>> commentary sites are spreading the news, filling the press void.
>> The French revelation jibes with other known aspects of Bush’s renowned
>> evangelical certitude. For example, a few months after his phone call to
>> Chirac, Bush attended a 2003 summit in Egypt. The Palestinian foreign
>> minister later said the American president told him he was “on a mission
>> from God” to defeat Iraq. At that time, the White House called this claim
>> “absurd.”
>> Recently, *GQ* magazine revealed that former Defense Secretary Donald
>> Rumsfeld attached warlike Bible verses and Iraq battle photos to war reports
>> he hand-delivered to Bush. One declared: “Put on the full armor of God, so
>> that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground.”
>> It’s awkward to say openly, but now-departed President Bush is a religious
>> crackpot, an ex-drunk of small intellect who “got saved.” He never should
>> have been entrusted with the power to start wars.
>> For six years, Americans really haven’t known why he launched the
>> unnecessary Iraq attack. Official pretexts turned out to be baseless. Iraq
>> had no weapons of mass destruction after all, and wasn’t in league with
>> terrorists, as the White House alleged. Collapse of his asserted reasons led
>> to speculation about hidden motives: Was the invasion loosed to gain control
>> of Iraq’s oil—or to protect Israel—or to complete Bush’s father’s vendetta
>> against the late dictator Saddam Hussein? Nobody ever found an answer.
>> Now, added to the other suspicions, comes the goofy possibility that
>> abstruse, supernatural, idiotic, laughable Bible prophecies were a factor.
>> This casts an ominous pall over the needless war that has killed more than
>> four thousand young Americans and cost U.S. taxpayers perhaps $1 trillion.
>>
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