FW: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Lou Dobbs is dangerous

C. G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Thu Aug 13 22:41:04 CDT 2009


Distant cousin.  (We go back more than three generations...)

John W. wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 1:04 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu 
> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:
> 
> Of course you should shout "Fire!" in a crowded theatre, if there is a fire.
> 
> The famous line comes from an utterly reprehensible SC decision in 1919,
> Schenck v. United States. "The most stringent protection of free speech would
> not protect a man falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic,"
> wrote Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. How had Schenck "falsely shouted fire"?  He
> had distributed flyers opposing the draft!  The SC in its majesty ruled that
> the USG could punish him for that, regardless of the First Amendment.
> 
> (The great jurist Holmes, fond of sententious sayings, was also admired by
> some peculiar people for his ruling in Buck v. Bell [1927], permitting the
> involuntary sterilization of a young Virgina woman: "Three generations of
> imbeciles are enough." Expert testimony came from a field worker for the
> "Eugenics Record Office" -- Dr. Arthur Estabrook...
> 
> 
> No relation, I presume? ...


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