[Peace-discuss] Liberal opinion

[David Green]

I got an e-mail today because for some reason I'm on a list (although no longer) for Democrats.com. It asked me (seriously) to send Bill Clinton a happy birthday message. But at some level, that's probably quite appropriate, in relation to his own happiness, if not of the general population.

DG




________________________________
From: Morton K. Brussel <brussel at illinois.edu>
To: C.G.Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>
Cc: peace-discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 2:37:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Liberal opinion

Sounds very fishy to me.  Needs looking into.  --mkb


On Aug 19, 2009, at 1:29 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:

>     The netroots agenda: War? What war?
>     By: Byron York
>     08/15/09 11:22 AM EDT
> 
> It's not getting much attention, but the Netroots Nation conference (formerly known as YearlyKos, a spinoff from the left-wing website DailyKos) is going on in Pittsburgh this weekend.  Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg has conducted a straw poll of the participants and found that a majority of those surveyed, 53 percent, say they "cannot support a health care reform bill that does not include a public option."  Other results include word that most of the attendees are willing to compromise a bit on environmental legislation, even though it gives a lot of benefits to big corporations, and the finding that, amazingly enough, attendees voice near-unanimous approval, 95 percent, of the job Barack Obama is doing as president.
> 
> What's truly striking in Greenberg's poll is the degree to which the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have fallen off the progressive radar.  I attended the first YearlyKos convention, in 2006, and have kept up with later ones, and it's safe to say that while people who attended those gatherings couldn't stand George W. Bush in general, their feelings were particularly intense when it came to opposing the war in Iraq.  It animated their activism; they hated the war, and they hated Bush for starting it.  They weren't that fond of the fighting in Afghanistan, either.
> 
> Now, with Obama in the White House, all that has changed.  Greenberg presented respondents with a list of policy priorities and asked, "Please indicate which two you think progressive activists should be focusing their attention and efforts on the most."  The winner was passing comprehensive health care reform, with 60 percent, and number two was passing "green energy policies that address environmental concerns," with 22 percent.  Tied for eighth place, named by just eight percent of respondents, was "working to end our military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan."
> 
> Then Greenberg asked which one of those issues "do you, personally, spend the most time advancing currently?"  The winner was health care reform, with 23 percent, and second place was "working to elect progressive candidates in the 2010 elections," with 16 percent.  In 11th place -- at the very bottom of the list -- was "working to end our military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan." Just one percent of Netroots Nations attendees listed that as their most important personal priority.
> 
> Many observers have remarked that Obama's decision to escalate the war in Afghanistan, and also to escalate the campaign of targeted assassinations using drone aircraft, both in Afghanistan and Pakistan, will cause him trouble on the political left.  Indeed, some members of Congress have suggested that the president has just a year to show significant results in Afghanistan before lawmakers begin to pressure him to pull back.  But if the Netroots Nation results are any indication, Obama may have more room than previously thought on the war.  Not too long ago, with a different president in the White House, the left was obsessed with America's wars.  Now, they're not even watching.
> 
> http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/The-netroots-agenda-War-What-war-53296592.html
> _______________________________________________
> Peace-discuss mailing list
> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/peace-discuss

_______________________________________________
Peace-discuss mailing list
Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/peace-discuss



      
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://lists.chambana.net/mailman/archive/peace-discuss/attachments/20090819/331b5f08/attachment-0001.htm