[Peace-discuss] Re: petition period has begun for next year's
D and R primaries
E. Wayne Johnson
ewj at pigs.ag
Thu Aug 27 11:35:29 CDT 2009
It's not clear to me what sort of standards for etiquette and language
exist for blogs and the internet.
Certainly the FCC ban on Carlin's "7 Words" doesnt apply, and one
probably can't write for the
Rolling Stone or Wonkette without being well-versed in punctuating ones
remarks with a
profusion of explicit calumnious metaphoric.
What bothers me most is the hypocrisy implicit in calling the expressed
admonitions of a group
"homophobic", "wacko", and "hate-mongering". Some of the so-called
left liberals are the most
likely to engage in intensely disparaging and often obscene remarks
about those who oppose their immorality. Isn't
it "hate-mongering" to call someone a "hate-monger"? Isn't it Wack to
call someone a wacko?
If I lived in Ms. Pulido's district, I would be likely to vote for her,
knowing that she
understands the dangers of homosexuality and is therefore more likely to
favour measures
that would tend to contain and extinguish homosexuality rather than
encourage it.
I would guess that those who engage in homosexual behaviour and those
who actively condone and promote homosexual behaviour
would have a similar response to any opposition to their ideas
regardless of what descriptive colloquialism is employed.
On 8/27/2009 8:55 AM, Ricky Baldwin wrote:
> Wayne,
> Are you endorsing these "fudge-packing" remarks in the original context?
>
> Ricky
>
> "Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn
>
> --- On *Thu, 8/27/09, Matt Reichel /<mattreichel at hotmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Matt Reichel <mattreichel at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Re: petition period has begun for
> next year's D and R primaries
> To: ewj at pigs.ag
> Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 8:03 AM
>
> Given the short time period of the special election, the fact that
> the Democrat was the presumed winner in the gerrymandered
> district, and the relative unknown nature of Pulido outside of
> various wacko channels, there aren't a whole lot of gold standards
> reporting on her. The value of the article I linked to had nothing
> to do with its investigative rigor, but rather with the fact that
> several quotes of Rosanna's were carefully laid out in succession.
> You only need listen to Rosanna to understand that she is an imbecile.
>
> From what I am reading here, perhaps the Campaign for Liberty
> ought be renamed the "Campaign for Liberty for Heterosexual White
> Men."
>
> Truly Scary Stuff.
>
> Best,
> Matt
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:24:09 -0500
> From: ewj at pigs.ag
> To: mattreichel at hotmail.com
> CC: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Re: petition period has begun for
> next year's D and R primaries
>
> Matt,
>
> Wonkette is certainly the gold standard of truth and carefully
> considered journalism.
>
> I am really with you on this one. I am so disappointed that
> Rosanna "apologized". I don't much go for flip-floppers.
> Thanks for pointing this out. I will ask her what point of
> weakness led her to apologize
> when I see her in Du Quoin. Hope you will be able to make it to
> come speak to us in Du Quoin
> and maybe you can see how she answers my question.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 8/26/2009 2:57 PM, Matt Reichel wrote:
>
> I merely wanted to correct your misconception about Rosanna.
> She couldn't be more separated from the liberty movement,
> which is precisely why David threw his hat into the primary.
>
> More on Rosanna:
> http://wonkette.com/407392/anonymous-racist-freeper-is-actually-republican-candidate-to-replace-rahm
>
> She was unveiled during the last election as the "Chicagolady"
> on the Free Republic website, where, among other things, she
> scribed "I would rather live in a meat-packing town than a
> fudge-packing town. Fudge-packing should be outlawed."
>
> This and other homophobic remarks were uncovered prior to her,
> Quigley and I being invited to speak at a gay rights forum
> organized by Gay Chicago magazine. She "apologized" for her
> remarks and went on into a tirade about how the Mexican
> government is intentionally exporting poverty to the United
> States and how people need to rise to the defense of our
> homeland from these illegal immigrants.
>
> If this is the kind of politician that you support as part of
> the liberty movement, I would be compelled to seriously
> question your credentials as a "peace activist."
>
> Cheers,
> Matt
>
> > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 14:34:24 -0500
> > From: ewj at pigs.ag
> <http://us.mc306.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ewj@pigs.ag>
> > To: mattreichel at hotmail.com
> <http://us.mc306.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mattreichel@hotmail.com>
> > CC: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com
> <http://us.mc306.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naiman.uiuc@gmail.com>;
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> <http://us.mc306.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Re: petition period has begun
> for next year's D and R primaries
> >
> > Fascist in what sense?
> >
> > I dont live in her district but I'll ask Rosanna about you
> and Mr.
> > Ratowitz.
> >
> > You are surely a pleasant enough fellow, helping us identify
> > hate-mongers like you do.
> >
> >
> > On 8/26/2009 2:07 PM, Matt Reichel wrote:
> > > Rosanna Pulido is not a Ron Paulista; she is a fascist,
> racist
> > > hate-monger who heads the Illinois Minuteman.
> > > I am not sure where you have her identified as belonging
> to the Ron
> > > Paul movement. She did show up at the July 4th Tea Party, but
> > > demonstrated no idea as to what it was about.
> > > She is being opposed in the Republican Primary by David
> Ratowitz, who
> > > is a genuine Ron Paulista, and a far superior candidate.
> > >
> > > Either one will lose to me in the general election.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Matt Reichel
> > > www.mattreichel.us <http://www.mattreichel.us/>
> > >
> > >
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> > > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:22:03 -0500
> > > From: ewj at pigs.ag
> <http://us.mc306.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ewj@pigs.ag>
> > > To: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com
> <http://us.mc306.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naiman.uiuc@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Re: petition period has begun
> for next
> > > year's D and R primaries
> > > CC: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> <http://us.mc306.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net>
> > >
> > > There are some that I know of, I dont have a compleat list.
> > >
> > > Adam Kokesh (IVAW) - New Mexico
> > > Rosanna Pulido - Illinois
> > > RJ Harris - Oklahoma
> > > Delia Lopez - Oregon
> > >
> > > Very Many in Missouri, including
> > > Jacob Turk - Missouri
> > >
> > > Tim Nerenz - Wisconsin
> > >
> > > Peter Schiff - Connecticut
> > > Rand Paul - Kentucky
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/26/2009 12:07 PM, Robert Naiman wrote:
> > >
> > > My memory was that when Ron Paul folded his Presidential
> campaign,
> > > there was a call for Paulistas to run for Congress as
> Republicans.
> > > What happened with that?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Robert
> Naiman<naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>
> <http://us.mc306.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naiman.uiuc@gmail.com>
> <mailto:naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>
> <http://us.mc306.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naiman.uiuc@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone who might be interested in running for office in a
> Democratic
> > > or Republican primary in Illinois next spring should be
> aware that the
> > > legal period for passing nominating petitions has begun. I
> understand
> > > the filing deadline is near the end of October - it's
> earlier than it
> > > used to be, b/c they moved up the Illinois primary for Obama.
> > >
> > > Mary Lee Sargent once said, "Everyone should run for
> office, at least
> > > once." If you are a U.S. citizen, not currently in trouble
> with the
> > > law, you should give it some thought.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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