[Peace-discuss] Catholics oppose public Catholic funeral forarch-heretic Kennedy.

[Ricky Baldwin]

It may surprise some, but I agree.  Thanks, Dave.  Well said.

Ricky Baldwin



"Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn

--- On Sat, 8/29/09, unionyes <unionyes at ameritech.net> wrote:

From: unionyes <unionyes at ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Catholics oppose public Catholic funeral forarch-heretic Kennedy.
To: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, "Neil Parthun" <lennybrucefan at gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 8:57 PM



 
 

Not to mention the Inquesition and the suppresion 
of the Gaelic traditions of Ireland and other cultures / countries via 
imperialism !
 
On the other hand, there seems to be a 
parallel culture in the catholic church that ; fought for civil rights, the 
rights of workers to organize into Unions, Dorathy Day and the Catholic Worker 
House Movement, liberation theology, and the Marry Knoll order / SOA WATCH ( 
School of the America's Watch ) and their brave and persistent civil 
disobeideance that I had the pleasure to witness first hand in Washington D.C. 
in the spring of 2001, when I was a guest at their Mary Knoll Order House as a 
rank and file Carpenter battling corporate unionism, and participated in their 
march around the Pentagon ( " PRESENTE " - reading the names of the 
Latin American victims of the torture school of the school of the 
Americas... chilling and inspiring  )  and then subsequent civil 
disobeidience actions in which dozens were arrested. Spilling their own blood ( 
that they drained from themselves the day before ) and blocking access to 
the Pentegon bldg. 
Some of the bravest and most principled 
activists I have ever met !
Including Father Roy Bourgoise and Father " Pancho 
", who was a priest born and raised in Kentucky and spent most of his adult life 
in Bolivia until he had to leave the country due to death threats because he 
started a cooperative bank for peasant campesino farmers with low interest loans 
( 1% on average ), that cut into the loan sharking business of the wife of the 
local Bolivian military commander who was charging 20 % + 
interest.
When the Bolivian military commander issued the 
death threats to Father Pancho and said he had 24-hours to leave the country, 
Father pancho asked why, at which point the military commander stated that 
Father Pancho was a " Communist ".
When Father Pancho denied he was a Communist and 
that he was only trying to help the " common man ", the military commander 
stated ; " If you support the common man, you are a Communist " !
 
When I met Father Pancho at the Mary Knoll House in 
D.C., I thought he was the caretaker / janitor because he dressed and acted so 
humbly and was so working class.
 
So it's a mixed bag, much like the history of 
the U.S..
 
David J.
 
 
 
 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Neil 
  Parthun 
  To: John W. 
  Cc: Peace-discuss ; E. Wayne Johnson 
  Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 1:40 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Catholics 
  oppose public Catholic funeral forarch-heretic Kennedy.
  
An organization that sanctified the slave trade for centuries, 
  collaborated with the Nazis during World War II, has helped to foment an 
  AIDS/HIV epidemic in Africa by not not sanctioning condoms as they are 
  'science' preventing God's work, allowed decades of paedophilia and kept 
  priests from the legal ramifications of their horrific crimes, et al., really 
  doesn't have much of a moral high ground to throw stones at anybody.


  
  
  Solidarity,
    -N.
  

  Neil Parthun
    IEA Region 9 Grassroots Political Activist
    Writer/Facilitator for Champaign-Urbana Public i
  

  "Early in life I had learned that if you want something, you had better 
  make some noise." - Malcolm X

  
  

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