[Peace-discuss] Obama Invokes "Just War, " But Is the War inAfghanistan "Just"?

[E. Wayne Johnson]

L.O.L.

Moonshine summit.


On 12/10/2009 6:01 PM, Laurie Solomon wrote:
> Yes, maybe next year, it will be a "Wine Summit" or "Whiskey Summit" 
> or both where he convinces the rich bankers and/or the Southern 
> "Rednecks" that "House Niggers" still exist in contemporary 
> society and can be useful to the establishment to retain in office as 
> fronts for the sake of appearances as a populist democratic and 
> egalitarian political system while actually being able to keep the 
> masses in their place.
>
> *From:* Ed Mandel <mailto:crazyhawk22 at hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:03 PM
> *To:* peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net 
> <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [Peace-discuss] Obama Invokes "Just War, " But Is the 
> War inAfghanistan "Just"?
>
> President Obama gave the wrong speech this morning. He should have 
> graciously thanked the Nobel committee for awarding him with this 
> honor but that he has to refuse to accept it on principle. The speech 
> would have taken all of 2 minutes & it would have revealed him as a 
> man with character. Instead, he invokes a "Just War" concept, that I 
> believe in, but applying it to the current US military conflicts tests 
> my credulity to its limit. I think this speech makes the President 
> look foolish.
>
> With the year coming to an end, the one great accomplishment President 
> Obama can be proud of was the "Beer Summit". He was able to resolve 
> the differences between a white police officer & an African American 
> professor. I certainly look forward to what he will accomplish next 
> year with avid anticipation.
>
> ***********************************************
>
> > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:26:44 -0500
> > From: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com
> > To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Obama Invokes "Just War, " But Is the War 
> in Afghanistan "Just"?
> >
> > Obama Invokes "Just War," But Is the War in Afghanistan "Just"?
> >
> > "Accepting Peace Prize, Obama Evokes 'Just War,'" notes the headline
> > in the New York Times, referring to President Obama's speech accepting
> > the Nobel Peace Prize. President Obama did indeed invoke the concept
> > of a "just war." But tellingly, he did not try to argue that the U.S.
> > war in Afghanistan meets the criteria to be judged as a "just war."
> >
> > A plausible explanation for the President's failure to argue that the
> > war in Afghanistan is a "just war" is that he recognizes that such an
> > argument would not be convincing.
> >
> > As President Obama noted in his speech, there are criteria involved in
> > the "just war" concept. It isn't just a matter of proclaiming that a
> > war is justified. There are tests.
> >
> > This matters, because a substantial part of the U.S. and world
> > population subscribes to the theory of "just war." In particular, more
> > than a fifth of the U.S. population are estimated to identify as
> > Catholics. The concept of "just war" - that wars can be considered
> > "just" only if they meet certain criteria - is an official doctrine of
> > the Catholic Church.
> >
> > 
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/obama-invokes-just-war-bu_b_387231.html
> >
> > http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/12/10/121056/05
> >
> > http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/node/426
> >
> >
> > --
> > Robert Naiman
> > Just Foreign Policy
> > www.justforeignpolicy.org
> > naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
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