[Peace-discuss] Tim Johnson congratulated us on being consistent

[Ricky Baldwin]

Well said, John.

Ricky



"Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn

--- On Sun, 12/13/09, John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Tim Johnson congratulated us on being consistent
To: "David Gill" <docgill37 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "E. Wayne Johnson" <ewj at pigs.ag>, "Steve Cox" <coxsg at sbcglobal.net>, "Peace-discuss List" <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, "Karen Medina" <kmedina67 at gmail.com>, "Quakers" <ucfriendsmeeting at gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 12:57 PM



On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 10:44 AM, David Gill <docgill37 at yahoo.com> wrote:


I support a responsible withdrawal of the troops.
 
David Gill, M.D.


Unfortunately "responsible withdrawal" has become a code word or phrase for "we'll stay there as long as we want, until we in our infiniite wisdom determine that the (insert name of invaded/occupied peoples here) can 'take care of themselves' in our paternalistic absence."


Since the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are illegal, immoral, and patently foolish, the only truly responsible withdrawal would be what we finally ended up doing in Viet Nam - not letting the door hit our troops in the ass during their rather hasty retreat.


John Wason



 




From: E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
To: David Gill <docgill37 at yahoo.com>

Cc: Steve Cox <coxsg at sbcglobal.net>; Peace-discuss List <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>; Karen Medina <kmedina67 at gmail.com>; tif-cu at googlegroups.com; Quakers <ucfriendsmeeting at gmail.com>

Sent: Thu, December 10, 2009 1:22:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Tim Johnson congratulated us on being consistent


Dr. Gill,

We understand your attitude toward your opponent.

Would you mind sharing your view on the War?

On 12/10/2009 12:04 PM, David Gill wrote: 


Hi Steve,
 
    I share your concerns regarding Mr. Johnson.   We are suddenly to believe "pledges" made by Mr. Johnson, the man who signed a pledge to vacate Washington, D.C. by 2006 (a "pledge" which permitted him to win a narrow victory in a hotly-contested Republican primary in 2000)?  Actions like voting to invade Iraq (an action I publicly opposed) speak much louder than words, especially actions that cost the blood of millions, and the lost opportunities that a trillion dollars would have brought to the American people and the world.  And has Mr. Johnson even actually made such a  "pledge" publicly?  If so, can Mr. Estabrook actually reference it for us?  I read Mr. Johnson's press releases very closely, and while he calls for "responsible" withdrawal from Afghanistan, I can't find the call for "immediate" withdrawal which Mr. Estabrook ascribes to
 Mr. Johnson.
 
      Finally, to set the record straight:  I am not the "putative" Democratic candidate for Illinois' 15th district seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in the 2010 election, as described by Mr. Estabrook.  I am the true and actual candidate, as evidenced by a quick look at the web site of the Illinois State Board of Elections.

Thanks,
David Gill, M.D.


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