[Peace-discuss] Obama adviser who brought us Al Qaeda

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Two points Carl.

1) Before the Soviet Union invasion of Afganistan in the early 1980's, 
Afganistan had a progressive revolution and a left-wing populist government 
where women were members in the government cabinet ( and even wore skirts 
and pants ). There was land reform, an end to corruption, and a check on the 
power of the tribal warlords, and a secular co-ed educational literacy 
program instituted. The tribal leaders and the Islamic fanatics were 
outraged.
This point circa 1978-1979 is when the CIA began a destabalization program 
against the Afgan government under the direction of Brzezinski.
When the Afgan government was close to collapse, the Soviets invaded to 
prevent a Islamic right-wing government from coming to power. Then the CIA 
began to recruit and form Al Queda.

2) The sollution to the U.S. domestic political / social / class war unrest 
will NOT be money injected into the syatem, instead it will be NORCOM, the 
brigade of U.S. troops that have been re-deployed to the U.S.. In other 
words, the ruling class has no intention of compromising like they did in 
1933. They are prepared to murder and jail us in homeland security / FEMA 
concentration camps.

I don't want to imply that " resistence is futile ", on the contrary !
Just that we need to approach this with no illusions, and be prepared for 
the worst.
But resist we MUST !
The alternative is corporate feudal slavery, and personaly I would rather be 
dead than to submit to being a slave.

People DO have the power. If we ALL refuse to cooperate and shut them down 
where no one works and nothing works they will be forced to submit to us.
Getting the majority of working people in this country to realize this will 
be the challenge.
Most American working people are not class conscious. But the U.S. ruling 
class is.
And they will continue to distract us with their ; corporate news, American 
Idol, and so called reality TV shows, as well as all of the sporting events.

David J.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
To: "peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:29 PM
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Obama adviser who brought us Al Qaeda


> [Zbigniew Brzezinski was President Carter's National Security Adviser when 
> he arranged for the CIA to fund armed religious fanatics and send them 
> into Afghanistan (note: before the Soviet invasion) "to give the Russians 
> their own Vietnam," as he later bragged to a French magazine.  He 
> justified the plan by saying, "What is most important to the history of 
> the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some 
> stirred-up Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the 
> Cold War."  The stirred-up Muslims came back in September 2001 and so 
> became the Obama administration's lying excuse for killing people in 
> Afghanistan today in support of its geopolitical goals. --CGE]
>
>
> Brzezinski: ‘Hell, There Could Be Even Riots’
>
> Brzezinski fears class warfare.  Not Mika. Zbigniew.  And not 
> Barney-Frank-on-Meet-the-Press class warfare.  Real, blood-in-the-streets 
> riots.
>
> Jimmy Carter’s former National Security Adviser expressed his concern 
> about the possibility of riots on Morning Joe today.  To stave them off, 
> he proposes the creation of a voluntary National Solidarity Fund, whose 
> contributors would be those who made out very well in recent times.
>
> JOE SCARBOROUGH: You also talked about the possibility of class conflict.
>
> ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI: I was worrying about it because we’re going to have 
> millions and millions of unemployed, people really facing dire straits. 
> And we’re going to be having that for some period of time before things 
> hopefully improve. And at the same time there is public awareness of this 
> extraordinary wealth that was transferred to a few individuals at levels 
> without historical precedent in America . . . And you sort of say to 
> yourself: what’s going to happen in this society when these people are 
> without jobs, when their families hurt, when they lose their homes, and so 
> forth?
>
> We have the government trying to repair: repair the banking system, to 
> bail the housing out.  But what about the rich guys? Where is it?  [What 
> are they] doing?
>
> It sort of struck me, that in 1907, when we had a massive banking crisis, 
> when banks were beginning to collapse, there were going to be riots in the 
> streets. Some financiers, led by J.P. Morgan, got together.  He locked 
> them in his library at one point. He wouldn’t let them out until 4:45 AM, 
> until they all kicked in and gave some money to stabilize the banks: there 
> was no Federal Reserve at the time.
>
> Where is the monied class today? Why aren’t they doing something: the 
> people who made billions, millions.  I’m sort of thinking of Paulson, of 
> Rubin. Why don’t they get together, and why don’t they organize a National 
> Solidarity Fund in which they call on all of those who made these 
> extraordinary amounts of money to kick some back in to [a] National 
> Solidarity Fund?
>
> A bit later, Zbig made his fears explicit.
>
> BRZEZINSKI: And if we don’t get some sort of voluntary National Solidarity 
> Fund, at some point there’ll be such political pressure that Congress will 
> start getting in the act, there’s going to be growing conflict between the 
> classes and if people are unemployed and really hurting, hell, there could 
> be even riots!
>
> Note: This might have been Zbig’s first Morning Joe appearance since he 
> sneeringly dismissed Scarborough as “stunningly superficial.” 
> Unfortunately, from a selfish entertainment-value perspective, there was 
> no renewal of those fireworks, all parties being on their best behavior. 
> Mika, apparently off on vacation, is certainly relieved.
>
> http://finkelblog.com/index.php/2009/02/17/brzezinski-hell-there-could-be-even-riots/
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