[Peace-discuss] "Waltz with Bashir" at the Art Feb 27.

[Jenifer Cartwright]

Maybe the Art would let AWARE lead an after-film discussion right there in the theatre after one/some of the showings -- it's been done before. Anybody feel like organizing something like that? Friday the 27th looks fairly open...
 --Jenifer

--- On Sun, 2/22/09, Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] "Waltz with Bashir" at the Art Feb 27.
To: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
Cc: "Peace Discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 11:37 AM

A wonderful idea. Of course, anyone who doesn't see the movie is going
to be at a disadvantage in the discussion... :)


On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:32 AM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at uiuc.edu>
wrote:
> Maybe it would be worthwhile for AWARE to sponsor a public forum
critically
> discussing it (and not as a foreign artifact but as a question of US
foreign
> policy).  Recording it for UPTV means we could take advantage of their
> upcoming web distribution. --CGE
>
>
> David Green wrote:
>>
>> Well Bob, there's no way to evaluate a movie that claims to be
based on
>> historical events without understanding as much as is possible the
>> contextual
>> truth about those events. I'd be very surprised if the movie does
that,
>> concentric circles aside. Israeli "anguish" in no way
implies honest
>> self-criticism, in fact it implies the opposite--the
sentimentalization of
>> political criminality, the sublimation of moral responsibility and the
>> denial
>> of its consequences. Israeli "anguish" always assumes moral
superiority
>> and
>> hand-washing at the same time. At best it sounds to me like what
during
>> Watergate was called a "modified, limited, hangout."
It's suspect that
>> it's
>> popular. A film that was genuinely critical of Israel, with
implications
>> made
>> clear, would not get a Hollywood award. It's not for me to tell
people to
>> see
>> it or not to. Personally, I won't, on principle, unless it's
necessary
>> preparation for a public event critically discussing it.
>>
>> DG
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ---- From: Robert Naiman
<naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>
>> To:
>> Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Sent: Sunday,
February
>> 22,
>> 2009 12:13:14 AM Subject: [Peace-discuss] "Waltz with
Bashir" at the Art
>> Feb
>> 27.
>>
>> The Israeli film "Waltz with Bashir" is at the Art starting
next Friday.
>> It
>> uses (mainly) animation to depict the director's real-life story
of
>> recovering his suppressed memory as an IDF soldier of the
IDF-supervised
>> Phalangist massacres at the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and
>> Chatilla
>> during the 1982 invasion of Lebanon by interviewing fellow Israeli
>> veterans.
>>
>> I strongly recommend seeing it. It tries in a new way to tell this
>> important
>> story, and that would be enough; but the film is also a broader attack
on
>> "concentric circles" of complicity in atrocities, and as
such, has
>> obviously
>> a much wider scope than just the events of Lebanon 1982...
>>
>



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