[Peace-discuss] Blago-Burris circus
Bob Illyes
illyes at uiuc.edu
Fri Jan 9 12:26:28 CST 2009
Laurie writes: "As for calling the revolutionary fighters illiterate and
uneducated, I will stand by that. There are a number of uneducated and
illiterate people in the world who are true believers and have memorized
the Bible, songs, prayers, maxiums and a whole lot more who (a) do not
understand what they have memorized and repeat, (b) cannot discuss or
evaluate what they have absorbed, or (c) explain and justify their actions
in terms of the slogans and phrases of the day. Most of the fighters in the
revolutionary armies in all likelihood were not sophisticated erudite
persons who had more than rudimentary schooling and reading and writing
skills."
And here we have the real argument. If I believed that only "sophisticated
erudite persons" could govern well, I would consider democracy to be
ill-advised and unworkable, and give up on thinking about the matter.
So we are back to the Joe Six-Pack debate.....
Incidentally, Laurie, you confuse science with statistics. This is a common
error. Pure sciences, such as mathematics, do not require statistical
verification in general to establish the truth or falsehood of conclusions.
Even in experimental science, one case can make a huge difference, although
it is, technically, statistically insignificant. Science is not nearly as
probabilistic as you suggest.
I wrote my original comment because I am grateful to Wayne for having
emphasized the seminal importance of the Declaration of Independence. It is
too easy, in noting that that the Declaration is unfortunately not legally
binding, to underestimate its importance. By stating that rights are
inherent in the individual rather than granted by the government, it sets a
standard without which democracy is unworkable and ethics belongs to
Machiavelli.
Bob
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