[Peace-discuss] Re: [Announce] [Peace] Fwd: [stop] ACTION ALERT: Arraignment for Mark Nepermann Tomorrow

[carbenmommy at yahoo.com]

Yes, I know.  Money does make the world go around...  ...but it isn't just because of money that the U of I has kept "Chief Illiniwek" around for so long.  They had to phase him out.  Like anything else, people can become obsessive about a mascot.  We would do well to remember that the BOT of 1960 was the entity that published the book The Galvanized Yankees, a book that lauds the efforts of the Union Army for starting the westward expansion at the cost of the lives of Native Americans, Germans, Irish and Confederate Soldiers who traded their freedom to fight the Union Army's cause.  I highly recommend that you all read the book The Galvanized Yankees by Dee Alexander Brown (also known as D. Brown, Dee Brown and I think Alexander Brown), look up the police stats throughout the 1960-2006 of the U of I and Champaign-Urbana, IL and notice alcohol related and violence related misdemeanors and felons being committed and by whom.  I would also do the
 research on how many students dropped out of the U of I for poor grades, fits of violence etc. and being suspended or otherwise dismissed from the U of I.  I would also check the above stats during "Unofficial St. Patrick's Day."  Once again, I give the following posting about Julia Reitz, who, unfortunately is keeping her word concerning misdemeanors and felons.  I am only speculating that the dumb blond is only down playing the severity of the crimes being committed to down play the criminal activity of "white, male offenders."  After all, its not Julia Reitz fault she is one-sided now is it?  
 
Q)  Julia Reitz, what is the new misdemeanor equivalent to Rape, is it Sexual Mayhem?  If so and if you are ever raped, should we just chalk up the incidence to sexual mayhem?
 
Wake Up World Before Its Too Late,
 
Nora E. Whipple









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Re: Another Clout Story at Clout U. (U of IL)
Thursday, July 2, 2009 4:54 PM



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Ahh...  As much as I hate to admit to this, Julia Reitz is keeping her word, not that I agree with her, but she is keeping her word in regard to misdemeanors.  Perhaps WE should make sure she sees the follow writing I have posted regarding the U of I and Kent State.  The writing is after the minutes of the Steering Committee's meeting of the American Civil Liberties Union.
 
 
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AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION 

of Champaign County 

Steering Committee 

March 1, 2007 

Present: Bill Brown, Roger Clark, Susan Cohen, Ward Henson, Esther Patt, Gary Peters, Richard Schnuer, Ben Grosser, Stephen Portnoy, Carol Spindel, Marsha Woodbury, Mary Cory, Stan Levy, Paul Wisovaty 

Absent with notice:  Alan Levy, Rachael Dietkus, Shirley Stillinger 

Guest: Julia Reitz, Champaign County State's Attorney. 

The meeting was called to order by the acting chair, Susan Cohen, at 7:35 p.m. Introductions were made around the table and the minutes were approved as distributed. 

Julia Reitz's Presentation 

State's Attorney Julia Reitz gave her presentation before general business. She spoke for over an hour about her running of the State's Attorney office. Some of the interesting points made were that out of  the 102 State's Attorneys in Illinois, only 7 are women. Locally in Champaign Country the office has 22 attorneys and 48 staff altogether.  There are 12 police agencies in the county. 

The office only prosecutes State crimes, with over 2000 felonies and 1800 misdemeanors filed last year. They also oversee Juvenile Justice and Illinois traffic cases.  The changes in Illinois law regarding DUI and driving without car insurance have increased the felony cases related to traffic offenses. 

Her goal is to reduce the number of felonies filed and increase the number of misdemeanors. She mentioned "station adjustments" that are alternatives to prosecutions and involve things like having violators do public service. These programs are at the discretion of the police agency. 

She also mentioned that truancy has become a large problem, and largest group of truants are African American girls. 

Another issue that is of interest to the ACLU is changing the age for the "Adult" label.  Currently the age is 17, but there is a movement to have the age moved to 18.  She reviewed both sides of the debate, 
and finished her presentation at 9:00 p.m. 

Annual Meeting: 

The Annual meeting will be on April 22, 207, at the Great Impasta, starting at 11:30 a.m. Gary Isaacs is the speaker. 

The price is $25, and $15 for students/low income. The only award we will present is the Chalmers Award to Sandra Ahten.

Newsletter: 

The deadline for newsletter articles is March 10, and we can help with labeling during the last week in March. 

The meeting was adjourned at 9:20 p.m. 

Respectfully submitted, 

Marsha Woodbury 


NEXT MEETING: April 5, 2007, at 7:30 p.m. 
 
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Response to Chief Bearskin's Interview
Saturday, January 10, 2009 11:43 AM



From: 

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Laurel:
 
Perhaps the following email that I posted to the Say NO to Mascots site will clarify why Chief Bearskin is in favor of Native American imagery being used in schools.  Please also keep the following prophecy in mind when reading the posting:  "There will be a devil in the form of a white man and he will kill those he loves and then the Earth will return to those it belongs to."  By using stereotypical Native American imagery, those people are identifying themselves in the way that people do when wearing arm bands adorn with swastikas.  It is becuase of the US Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence that we must be politically correct in how we treat one another.  A person can be racist.  A person can even hate another person, but a person cannot allow their racial hate towards another person or a group of people to take a way their Right to Life through any type of errosion.  This is why we have laws
 concerning stalking, murder, harrassment, aggrivated assult and manslaughter.  It is also why people need to watch their own children play in a sandbox more often to see wether or not their is a future fellow developing to readjust their thinking and actions so that they can safely protect themselves and stand up for themselves when needed and to stop incorporating the task "Jesus" undertook into their own lives to remain vicitmized by those in their communities.  People need to remember that "Jesus" did get angry and did use brute force in retaliation against those who broke "GOD's" sanctions.  A lot of people forget about the moneychangers who held market in the temple/churches for selfish gain and that "Jesus" cracked the wip towards the animals and knocked over tables while stating, "Not in my father's house!"
 
Here Is to Hoping I Have Cleared Some Confusion,
 
Nora E. Whipple    

--- On Thu, 12/18/08, Nora Whipple <carbenmommy at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nora Whipple <carbenmommy at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: NCAA Hypocrisy (FSU)
To: saynotomascots at yahoogroups.com, iamnoraelaine at hotmail.com
Date: Thursday, December 18, 2008, 5:53 PM










Hypocrisy, blah, blah, blah...  You see, this is the problem with race based mascots.  There are two factors to take into account when dealing with race based mascots:  1) Why is the University is using the imagery in the first place., 2) What do those people who comprise the tribe or nation think/feel/believe about the use of their imagery being used. I am sure if the Board of Trustees of Florida State published a book that lauds the efforts of Civil War Solders killing the Seminole Tribe like the Board of Trustees of the U of I did in the 1960's then FSU would be on the hostile list of universities that use Native American Imagery.  Below are two sections of the book The Galvanized Yankees by Alexander D. Brown (sometimes known as Dee Brown and D. Brown) which states the following words that prove the U of I still has a hostile atmosphere to rectify concerning the Illini Tribe and Algonquin Nation: 
    
    "Fortunately the company was commanded by one of the regiment's best 
     captains, Adams Bassett, who proudly recorded on arrival that Company C  
     was stationed at Fort Berthold "on the Missouri River some 2,000 miles 
     from its mouth."  The company also had a first-rate surgeon, 22 year-old 
     Washington Matthews.  Matthews had been sent out to Dakota from Rock 
     Island Prison, where he had attended many of the Confederates who joined 
     the 2nd and 3rd Volunteers.  He knew all the strengths and weaknesses of 
     Galvanized Yankees. In spite of his cramped quarters, Dr. Matthews 
     maintained one of the best hospitals on the Missouri.  While at Berthold, 
     he mastered the languages of the Mandans and Rees, and in later years of 
     service became an outstanding military surgeon and a famed 
     anthropologist (114)." 
 
The following words also appear:
 
Also on the back of the book cover it states, "They [The Galvanized Yankees] were a lost legion, unhonored, unsung.  No Southern state would claim them; the Grand Army of the Republic forgot them. This is their fascinating and long-overdue story-- told by a well-known writer on the American West and the Civil War."
 
Picture if you will. It is May 4, 1970 and a group of students are killed at Kent State University Ohio.  Those students were not guilty of anything other than standing up for what they believed in.  Those students cannot speak for themselves because they are dead through no fault of their own.  However, the students' parents, cousins and distant relatives can aggrieve their deaths.  Years go by and the University is using the slain Kent State University's student's faces on tee-shirts, the band plays those slain student's favorite music and a group of students are dressed like those slain students and dancing at half-time shows where the future cousins and distant relatives have no real choice but to view a painful reminder of the past.  Kent State University does nothing to stop the use of the slain student's imagery and recreational past-times from being used upon the campus.  Fights start breaking out, other students start celebrating harder at
 the half-time programs in which the slain students are portrayed on the football field and they cannot get to their classes because they have hangovers so bad they cannot wake up or they attend class in their pajamas.  Those who want to stop the use of imagery and half -time shows of those murdered students start holding protests, organizing their own league to stop what is psychologically eroding at their Right to Life and Liberty of viewing their loved ones slain throw the use of the slain Kent State University students' imagery and recreational habits.  More and more people, those related to the murdered Kent State University students and not, are threatening the University with lawsuits holding the university responsible for letting the use of the First Amendment get out of hand.  Though public debate,  the allowance of having students dress up as the murdered Kent State University students dance at half-time shows diminishes and there are less
 incidences of battery occurring on the campus and more students are passing their classes because their are less opportunities to celebrate in a hard manor to make them sick.  What would you do?  How would you react?  What are the logical and fair actions that should be taken to rectify the psychological damage done to those family members and friends who are most affected by the murdering of the Kent State University students by the National Guard?  How would you feel if the BOT of Kent State University published a book that read:
 
"Those who comprised the National Guard, on May 4, 1970, were a lost legion, unhonored, unsung.  This is their fascinating and long-overdue story-- told by a well-known writer on the Kent State University Shootings that claimed the lives of people like Jeffrey Miller." 
 
...and people wonder why our Nation is at risk of losing itself to itself all the time.
 
"Am I coming in clear?  Mom, I said am I coming in clear?" "Mike Tee Vee" from the movie "Willy Wonka.
 
"So shines a good is deed in a weary world."  "Willy Wonka" from the movie "Willy Wonka.
 
Or perhaps this exchange between "Charlie Bucket" and "Willy Wonka" from the movie "Willy Wonka will also add to the clarity of it all:
 
Charlie Bucket: Mr. Wonka, what's gonna happen to the other kids? Augustus, Veruca? 

 
Willy Wonka: My dear boy, I promise you they'll be quite all right. When they leave here, they'll be completely restored to their normal, terrible old selves. But maybe they'll be a little bit wiser for the wear. Anyway, don't worry about them. 
 
Does Any Body Out There Even Care,
 
Nora E. Whipple


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--- On Mon, 6/29/09, gunderso <gunderso at tcc.coop> wrote:


From: gunderso <gunderso at tcc.coop>
Subject: Another Clout Story at Clout U. (U of IL)
To: "SayNOtoMascots" <SayNOtoMascots at yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 9:25 AM










http://www.margaret soltan.com/ ?p=14356
 
Another Clout Story at Clout U.
You’ve probably missed the other clout story at the University of Illinois , but UD’s here to tell you about it.
Where to begin? It’s complicated… One could start way back, when the whole mascot thing got going… When the eons-long use of a Native American mascot, Chief Illiniwek, began, about twenty years ago, to be challenged as offensive, and the university ultimately dumped him. But he’s still sort of there. The ongoing saga is recounted here, and I want you to read it all, very carefully. Because it’s complicated. 
With feelings on campus about losing the Chief still raw, an art exhibit recently appeared — the work of Native American artist Edgar Heap of Birds — and various metal signs the artist conceived and had manufactured at an Oklahoma sign company were stolen. People thought maybe it was a hate crime, but security cameras discovered that the thief was a recent University of Illinois graduate who majored in art. 
Anyway. The latest is that the artist is really pissed because the State’s Attorney considers the case a misdemeanor, having placed the value of each sign at less than three hundred dollars. 
  
Heap of Birds, as well as many other American Indians and artists in the community, believe the signs are fine art and should be judged according to their appraised value, which would lift the theft charge to a felony. 
“We see it as pattern of behavior of treating American Indians as second-class citizens, both on this campus and in the community,” said John McKinn, assistant director of American Indian Studies at the UI. “It’s just another attempt to devalue American Indians and their experience. It also speaks to the lack of education we all have for what constitutes art.” 
Two different professional appraisers valued 12 similar Heap of Bird “Native Hosts” signs in British Columbia at $120,000, or $10,000 each. One of those appraisals, by a Canadian appraiser, was given to the Champaign County state’s attorney’s office. 
State’s Attorney Julia Rietz said the appraisal will not affect her decision related to the charge against Nepermann, a recent UI graduate. “It’s not proof to me of the value of these signs,” she said of the ones in Urbana. 
She instead based her decision on an invoice, given her by the UI police, from the American Logo and Sign Inc. in Moore, Okla., that the signs for the Urbana public art exhibit were sold to Heap of Birds for $88.65 each. The artist had the signs manufactured at the company. 
“This is the evidence that I have of the value of these signs and simply because Mr. Heap of Birds attributes a higher value to them doesn’t mean I can use that as proof in court,” Rietz said. 
Heap of Birds said the “Native Hosts” signs are fine art and that the value of a work of art is never based on the cost of materials or the manufacturer’ s cost. Taken into account are many factors, among them the concept behind the work, aesthetics, the prices of previous sales of the artist’s work and his or her reputation. 
Heap of Birds, who is 54, has exhibited internationally and at major museums, among them the Smithsonian Institution and the Denver Art Museum – where his outdoor “Wheel” sculpture is valued at $500,000. He exhibited as part of collateral events at the 2007 Venice Biennale, one of the world’s premiere international art exhibitions. 
  
Heap of Birds has clout in the art world. His mass-produced advertising signs are worth $10,000 a piece, and their theft should constitute a felony. Yet here - just as in the admissions scandal - we see the limits of clout. Heap of Birds can shove all the appraisal slips he likes in Rietz’s face. To her, the signs just look like signs. 
  
Margaret Soltan, 8:01AM
Posted in: it's art 
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--- On Fri, 7/3/09, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Re: [Announce] [Peace] Fwd: [stop] ACTION ALERT: Arraignment for Mark Nepermann Tomorrow
To: "E.Wayne Johnson" <ewj at pigs.ag>, "Neil Parthun" <lennybrucefan at gmail.com>
Cc: "Nora Whipple" <carbenmommy at yahoo.com>, "Court Watch" <announce at communitycourtwatch.org>, "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 3:09 PM







Well, of course the reason the U has chosen NOT to take sides on the Chief issue is purely economic -- all those rah rah alums who tear up when they think about the Chief -- and write those big fat checks would cut off their support if the U had voluntarily ditched the Chief. We're probably talking more money than you or I could imagine... which goes for good stuff like scholarships, salaries, etc. Not sure I can entirely fault the BOT for their pragmatism -- they're having enuff trouble making ends meet as it is, w/ grants and other funding reduced. And then there are still teams like the Wash Redskins, etc etc... 
 
Seems to me that those pictures need to be assigned a value -- surely there are comps, and hopefully they're insured? It's in the court's hands now -- the U is not (officially) involved at this point -- and I hope the prosecution has a very good lawyer.
 --Jenifer   

--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Neil Parthun <lennybrucefan at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Neil Parthun <lennybrucefan at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Re: [Announce] [Peace] Fwd: [stop] ACTION ALERT: Arraignment for Mark Nepermann Tomorrow
To: "E.Wayne Johnson" <ewj at pigs.ag>
Cc: "Nora Whipple" <carbenmommy at yahoo.com>, "Court Watch" <announce at communitycourtwatch.org>, "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 11:39 PM



This isn't some random artist.  He's been recognized by the Smithsonian as well as numerous foundations and even the National Foundation for the Arts.  He's taught at multiple universities and teaches currently at the University of Oklahoma.

The artist has had displays with similar themes (the backwards lettering and the "Your host is...") up in other states and in more public places than in front of the cultural houses on campus. 


Yet, no vandalism there.


He's even done more confrontational work than the "Beyond the Chief" pieces.


Yet, no vandalism there.


He's even done work at other schools in the Big 10 that challenged their history of discrimination against Natives.


Yet, no vandalism there.


Out of all the pieces that he's made, put up, distributed in the public -- only in Champaign/Urbana were any of them disturbed and in the Nepermann case, actually stolen.


I wouldn't attribute the tenor on campus to being openly hostile to Natives, but I would attribute it to a monumental ignorance as to why ridding the University of the red-faced racist minstrel show was the right idea.


The University had said that it was never an issue of if we were going to get rid of the Chief, but when.  However, all of the BOT lacked the spine to make the unpopular decision for the correct reason.  So when the boogeyman of the NCAA came up, they had the entity to blame and make the expedient decision they had wanted without much of the accountability/blame.


The University could start a search for a new mascot.  They have chosen not to for some reason.  The University could hold a freshman orientation session about why the Chief was removed and why it was the appropriate decision for the school.  In fact, such an idea was given to the Chancellor and the Provost and had a lot of support.  However, it was killed by the Chancellor.


Through their silence and inaction, the University is contributing to an environment of radical ignorance which breeds intolerance.




Solidarity,
  -N.


Neil Parthun
  Sports/politics writer, UC-IMC || www.ucimc.org



"Early in life I had learned that if you want something, you had better make some noise." - Malcolm X

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