[Peace-discuss] Fw: hb 174 - Time-dated request!!

[John W.]

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 2:41 AM, LAURIE SOLOMON <LAURIE at advancenet.net>wrote:

>  Unfortunately, it has been my experience with states which relied on
> income taxes alone or income taxes and property taxes that statewide
> collected taxes are not necessarily or always equitably distributed
> throughout the state or among the various functions and responsibilities of
> the state.  In fact, in most cases, the wealthy and middle class  urban and
> suburban areas of the state tend to get the lion share  while poorer rural
> areas tend to disproportionately less per population because they tend to
> produce less votes due to smaller populations and less inclination to vote.
> I will predict that the same disparities will exist under statewide funding
> based on statewide income taxes as now exist under current property tax
> methods.    Why not introduce a statewide property tax system as contrasted
> to a statewide income tax where all the property taxes collected in the
> state are pooled and then equitably divided among the various counties
> and/or districts?
>

For precisely the same reason you've stated, Laurie.  It woudln't be
politically acceptable.  The wealthy folks who pay more taxes - be they
income taxes, property taxes, or sales taxes - want better schools.  And the
politicians are going to kowtow to them.



>  *From:* peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net [mailto:
> peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] *On Behalf Of *Jenifer
> Cartwright
> *Sent:* Monday, June 01, 2009 12:07 AM,
> *To:* John W.
> *Cc:* Peace-discuss
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: hb 174 - Time-dated request!!
>
>
>
> The second part of the statement is
>
> "Education, including higher education would get steady state funding.
> People concerned about fair, equitable education funding have been working
> for this for years!"
>
> I took this to mean that schools would be funded from income tax collected
> statewide and dispersed equitably statewide -- rather than funded from
> property tax and dispersed w/in the districts where those taxes were
> collected.
>
>  --Jenifer
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 5/31/09, John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: hb 174 - Time-dated request!!
> To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 9:33 PM
>
> So please educate a stupid man.  In what sense is the following statement
> true?  "So the bill would shift the burden of funding K-12 education from
> property taxes to an income tax which would be a lot fairer in poorer
> districts."
>
>  On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com<http://us.mc449.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jencart13@yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> The highlights of an email just received -- more extensive details are
> below:
>
>
>
> *The bill [to fund public education from income- rather than property tax]
> is before the House right now.  Please contact your representative today
> [yes, Sun, May 31st] – THE VOTE IS EXPECTED TODAY [Sunday, May 31st] -- to
> tell her/him that you support House Bill 174.  *Naomi Jakobsson’s phone
> number is 217-558-1009.  If you live in another district, go to
> http://www.ilga.gov/house/ to find the contact information for the
> Springfield office.
>
>  --Jenifer
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 5/31/09, Jenny Barrett <jbarrett at cyrus.psych.uiuc.edu<http://us.mc449.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jbarrett@cyrus.psych.uiuc.edu>
> >* wrote:
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Hi, all,
>     I have some exciting news from Springfield.  First, thanks to all of
> you who called your legislators; the proposals that would have impacted our
> pensions negatively and underfunded them even more are dead.  Second, the
> Senate passed a tax bill that would (language from the Legislature web site
> http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=0174&GAID=10&DocTypeID=HB&LegID=40191&SessionID=76&SpecSess=&Session=&GA=96)
>
> Provides that certain amounts shall be transferred from the General Revenue
> Fund to the Common School Fund. Amends the Illinois Income Tax Act.
> Increases the income tax rate for individuals, trusts, and estates from 3%
> to 5%. Increases the income tax rate for corporations from 4.8% to 7.2%.
> Increases the residential real property tax credit from 5% to 10%. Increases
> the limitation on the education expense credit from $500 to $1,000.
> Increases the percentage of the earned income tax credit from 5% of the
> federal tax credit to 15% in 2009 and thereafter.
>
> So the bill would shift the burden of funding K-12 education from property
> taxes to an income tax which would be a lot fairer in poorer districts.
> Property owners and low income people would get tax credits.  Education,
> including higher education would get steady state funding.  People concerned
> about fair, equitable education funding have been working for this for
> years!
>
> *The bill is before the House right now.  Please contact your
> representative today – THE VOTE IS EXPECTED TODAY -- to tell her/him that
> you support House Bill 174.  *Naomi Jakobsson’s phone number is
> 217-558-1009.  If you live in another district, go to
> http://www.ilga.gov/house/ to find the contact information for the
> Springfield office.
>
> Thanks,
> Jenny
>
>
> Senior Research Programmer, Psychology
> 453B Psychology
> University of Illinois
>
> --
>
> Jenny Barrett
>
> Sr Research Programmer
>
> Psychology, University of Illinois
>
> 603 E Daniel
>
> Champaign IL 61820
>
> www.psych.uiuc.edu/~jbarrett <http://www.psych.uiuc.edu/%7Ejbarrett>
>
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