[Peace-discuss] Anti-racism
C. G. Estabrook
galliher at illinois.edu
Fri Mar 6 21:03:32 CST 2009
Also true Down East.
Ricky Baldwin wrote:
> Nice one(s), Carl. I particularly like the play on 'Nantucket', since
> so many people I grew up with pronounce 'took' in just that way as
> 'tuck' - little nostalgic.
>
> Ricky
>
> "Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>
> *To:* Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* naiman.uiuc at gmail.com; peace-discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> *Sent:* Friday, March 6, 2009 8:06:57 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Anti-racism
>
> Ricky Baldwin wrote:
> > Carl,
> >
> > I've been to your house, seen your car in the lot.
> > When it comes to the reckoning you get diddly squat.
>
> Ricky--
>
> Reading "I have" for "I've" and "reck'ning" for "reckoning," you have a
> couplet in anapestic tetrameter. (Cf. Byron's "The Destruction of
> Sennacherib":
>
> The Assyrian came down like a wolf on the fold
> And his cohorts were gleaming in purple and gold
> And the sheen of their spears was like stars on the sea
> When the blue wave rolls nightly on deep Galilee.)
>
> And your couplet makes me think, in verse, why I left my island home in
> Massachusetts:
>
> There once was a man from Nantucket
> Who kept all his cash in a bucket.
> But his daughter, named Nan,
> Ran away with a man
> And as for the bucket, Nantucket.
>
> (Which reminds me -- I should call my financial advisor, Bernie Madoff
> -- "Thanks to you, I'm considered well to do.")
>
> ------------
>
> My Attorney Bernie
>
> I'm impressed, with my attorney Bernie
> I'm impressed, with his influential friends
> He's got very big connections
> and I follow his directions
> Bernie knows his way around
> and so I always do what Bernie recommends.
>
> I am blessed, with my attorney Bernie
> I'm impressed, with the way he runs the store
> He's got Dodger season boxes
> and an office full of foxes
> It's amazing all the different things
> your average guy might need a lawyer for.
>
> (chorus)
>
> Bernie tells me what to do
> Bernie always lays it on the line
> Bernie says we sue, we sue
> Bernie says we sign -- we sign.
>
> I'm in touch, with my attorney Bernie
> In a clutch, he can speed right to the scene
> and if I'm locked up in the jail
> with just one phone call for my bail
> he said to call his club collect
> or deal directly with his answering machine
>
> When I dine, with my attorney Bernie
> He buys wine, from the rare imported rack
> That's cause Bernie is a purist
> not your polyester tourist
> Bernie waves the glass around awhile
> then takes a sip and always sends it back
>
> (chorus)
>
> I admire, my attorney Bernie
> I admire, any guy who knows his stuff
> Sure we blew a couple ventures
> with a counterfeit debenture
> But you win a few, you lose a few
> and like Bernie says you keep on hanging tough
>
> Thanks to you, my attorney Bernie
> Thanks to you, I'm considered well to do
> Sure I made out like a bandit
> Just exactly like you planned it
> But like Murray my accountant
> told me yesterday, I owe it all to you.
>
> (chorus)
>
> On the dotted line!
>
> (Words and Music: Dave Frishberg)
>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu
> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>>
> > *To:* naiman.uiuc at gmail.com <mailto:naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>
> > *Cc:* peace-discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net
> <mailto:peace-discuss at anti-war.net>>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:03:20 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Anti-racism
> >
> > I get something because my Irish great-grandfather was an exploited
> laborer in
> > 19c. Pennsylvania?
> >
> > There is (practically) no legal discrimination or popular prejudice
> against
> > Irish-Americans today (altho' I could tell you stories from New
> England...).
> >
> >
> > Robert Naiman wrote:
> > > I have no problem with making a distinction between legal
> structures and popular attitudes. I was making a different point: that
> the categories of "legal structures" and "popular attitudes" don't cover
> "racism," unless one expands the categories of "legal structures" and
> "popular attitudes" to include the absence of redress, since there are
> tendencies for disparities created in the past to be self-perpetuating,
> even in the absence of legal discrimination and popular prejudice.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 2:53 PM, C. G. Estabrook
> <galliher at illinois.edu <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>
> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>>> wrote:
> > >> It's worthwhile to distinguish between legal structures and
> popular attitudes, even if there are areas where they shade into one
> another (e.g.,
> > >> the non-enforcement of anti-discrimination laws, or prejudicial
> police practice). The same is true of night and day.
> > >>
> > >> The civil rights movement ended legal segregation and contributed
> to conscientization of some regarding racial prejudice. For others, it
> increased racial prejudice (e.g., whites who concluded "the government does
> > >> everything for black people!").
> > >>
> > >> The latter reaction was encouraged by the long-standing elite
> strategy of playing upon divisions in the working class -- and race was
> always a potent
> > >> division, as limited success of 20th-century union organizing in
> the South
> > >> shows.
> > >>
> > >> Jay Gould, American financier at the turn of the last century,
> remarked, "I
> > >> can always hire one-nalf of the American working class to kill
> the other half." He was not referring specifically to race, but it
> helped. --CGE
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Robert Naiman wrote:
> > >>> "legal" seems too narrow. economic discrimination can persist in
> the absence of laws enforcing discrimination. in fact, discrimination
> can persist without being strongly reinforced by censorious attitudes,
> through customs and practices that may seem nominally neutral but have
> the effect of reproducing existing disparities.
> > >>>
> > >>> for example: a legacy of British colonial policies in Northern
> Ireland was that Protestant workers disproportionately held factory
> jobs. a foreman comes before the workers and says,"we have a few
> openings." workers tell friends, neighbors, cousins. as a result, the
> applicant pool
> > >>> is all Protestants, and only Protestants get the jobs. no law
> said only Protestants would get the jobs. and censorious attitudes
> didn't have to be particularly strong for people to spread the news to
> their social circles which happened to be overwhelmingly Protestant. in
> such a situation, you would need affirmative action for redress. it
> isn't sufficient to say, there are no discriminatory laws, and the
> censorious attitudes aren't so bad.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:23 PM, C. G. Estabrook
> <galliher at illinois.edu <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>
> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>>> wrote:
> > >>>> [Racism refers to legal structures that penalize groups defined
> by descent. Racial prejudice refers to censorious attitudes towards groups
> > >>>> defined by descent. Both are present in Israel. Racism, but not
> > >>>> racial prejudice, is now largely absent in the US (altho' some,
> like
> > >>>> native Americans, may justly not think so). --CGE]
> > >>>>
> > >>>> March 4, 2009 SEGREGATION IN ISRAEL
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Israeli Association for Civil Rights
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Some 55 percent of Jewish Israelis say that the state should
> encourage
> > >>>> Arab emigration;
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 78 percent of Jewish Israelis oppose including Arab parties in
> the government;
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 56 percent agree with the statement that 'Arabs cannot attain
> the Jewish level of cultural development'
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 75 percent agree that Arabs are inclined to be violent. Among
> Arab-Israelis, 54 percent feel the same way about Jews.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 75 percent of Israeli Jews say they would not live in the same
> building
> > >>>> as Arabs.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> http://prorev.com/2009/03/segregation-in-israel.html
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