[Peace-discuss] Fw: Health care news worth sharing

[E. Wayne Johnson]

The problem is the pricing AND the characteristics of the delivery system.

You can bet that the system will strongly resist a revolution of 
reasonable pricing and efficient delivery, and
no doubt that is a great deal of what they fear.

What we need is tuna that tastes good, never mind Charlie who has "good 
taste".






On 5/14/2009 1:09 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> Wayne--
>
> I agree that we're "being cheated and robbed by the health-care 
> industry" -- just as we're being cheated and robbed by the auto 
> industry and the banking industry (to take two examples at random).
>
> But the solution is not to treat our own injuries and diseases -- any 
> more than it is to build our own cars in the backyard -- or do our own 
> banking by burying specie in the backyard (which'll get crowded, with 
> all the cars back there).
>
> The solution is to establish democratic control over each of these 
> industries and run them for the benefit of all, not for the few who 
> "own" them, as we do now.
>
> Production for use, not for profit, means in the "health-care 
> industry" that I'm treated on the basis of how sick I am, not how 
> well-off I am.
>
> I'm sorry I don't recall the Lord Buckley reference (altho' Laurie 
> long ago gave me a collection of his stuff that might have it).
>
> Re Robert Crumb, I'm afraid you're taking the attitude of Mr. Natural 
> -- and I unavoidably that of Flakey Foont, who asks him, "But what 
> does it all MEAN...?"
>
> --CGE AKA FF
>
> E. Wayne Johnson wrote:
>> The problem with "health care" and the 
>> medical-pharmaceutical-insurance/liability industrial complex (the 
>> "health
>> care industry") that has a stranglehold on so much of America is not 
>> who is
>> paying for it, any more than the problem with the military-industrial 
>> complex
>> is how those toys and chattels get paid for.
>>
>> The modern day story of the Good Samaritan goes something like 
>> this...a battered and wounded man is picked up by an ambulance driven 
>> by the "good
>> Samaritan" and hauled to a hospital, THEN he falls among thieves.  
>> Those guys
>> on the Jericho Road were mere amateurs.  They missed the real 
>> opportunity for
>> plunder.
>>
>> Americans just don't seem to be able to "get it" that they are being 
>> cheated
>> and robbed by the health care industry, which tends to drive tacks with
>> sledgehammers because it makes more money that way.
>>
>> We are being ripped off.  Robbed.   Cheated.  The hospitals and 
>> clinics are
>> doing with a pencil what Jesse James required a gun to do. Americans are
>> terrified about their health and afraid that they are going to die, 
>> and have
>> a sense of entitlement that sets them up to be the natural prey of the
>> healthcare industrial complex.
>>
>> The answer to America's health care crisis is like Lord Buckley's 
>> bear dance,
>>  so simple like the Jitterbug that it plumb evades.
>>
>> I really don't expect very many people to come to their senses on 
>> this any
>> time soon.
>>
>> As Robert Crumb had one of his characters to say (in 1993) about 
>> America's
>> integral decline and demise, " Yo' fo'fathers wuz some Bad Asses, but 
>> yo' be
>> weak!"
>>
>> Some body else will pay for my troubles.
>>
>> On 5/13/2009 11:29 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>>> Obama’s Health Care Charade By Glen Ford 05/13/2009
>>>
>>> President Obama has gone to extraordinary lengths to suppress 
>>> advocates of
>>> single-payer health care. He has choreographed a grand theater of
>>> faux-change, in which he "seeks to create a façade of unity along lines
>>> that do not threaten corporate power." The goal is to "sidetrack, 
>>> possibly
>>> for decades, the most broadly supported idea in American politics, 
>>> today."
>>> This "requires elaborate reconstructions of reality," starting with
>>> "methodically erasing single-payer advocates from the picture, with the
>>> enthusiastic collaboration of the corporate media." Thus, Obama and
>>> compliant Democrats on The Hill stage "summits" and "public roundtable
>>> discussions" on health care from which majority U.S. opinion is totally
>>> excluded...
>>>
>>> Obama’s conduct of the health care non-debate gives the lie to his 
>>> supposed
>>> credo – that he seeks to unite Americans around issues of common 
>>> concern.
>>> In reality, Obama seeks to create a façade of unity along lines that 
>>> do not
>>> threaten corporate power. He is determined to shut down the Left, 
>>> and will
>>> succeed in doing so as long as “progressives” persist in believing 
>>> that,
>>> deep down, this president is on their side.
>>>
>>> Full article at 
>>> http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=print/content/obama%E2%80%99s-health-care-charade 
>>>
>>>
>>>
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