[Peace-discuss] July 4th float -- okay, seriously...

unionyes unionyes at ameritech.net
Thu May 21 20:07:50 CDT 2009


I agree Jenifer,

Although this exchange of Linclon info has been informative, we need to " use " Lincoln's positive statements in his many speeches ( rather he was a hypocrite or not ).
BTW, wasn't Lincoln a prominent anti-war critic against the Mexican war when he was a freshman U.S. Congressman ?

David J.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jenifer Cartwright 
  To: E. Wayne Johnson 
  Cc: Peace-discuss 
  Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] July 4th float -- okay, seriously...


        What state, country -- planet!!! -- are you living on, Wayne?? (Have you looked at an IL license plate lately??) AWARE would be committing suicide if this was turned into an op to expose Lincoln. I can live w/ the LEGACY of Lincoln, and hope the AWARE decision-makers can as well -- that during his presidency the US stayed one country, and that (eventually) slavery was abolished. Other positives: from modest beginnings to the highest office in the land, powerful speeches, giving his life for his country, etc. Probably other examples can be found and used as well, if AWARE stays positive (for a welcome change).
         --Jenifer 
          

        --- On Wed, 5/20/09, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:


          From: E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
          Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] July 4th float -- okay, seriously...
          To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
          Cc: "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
          Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:48 PM


            we can get our point across w/o dissing Lincoln
          Really?

          His reputation as a good guy is pretty much a myth.  

          We might as well celebrate Paul Bunyan.



          On 5/20/2009 10:26 PM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote: 
                  How 'bout a sweet little girl asking, "Mr Lincoln. What if they gave a war and no one came??"
                  And/or our own version of what we hope Lincoln would say if he were alive today? Distill down his actual quotes (as John suggested), and/or use a quote or slogan that represents his reputation as a good guy, e g -- 
                  Honesty is the best policy. 
                  Something about negs of war. 
                  Something about positives of peace and freedom. 
                  And also, show examples to the contrary w/ the universal symbol for NO -- circle w/ slantwise slash. 

                  It can't possibly have the punch of last year's (wow!), but we can get our point across w/o dissing Lincoln (or Obama). 
                   --Jenifer   


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