[Peace-discuss] July 4th float -- okay, seriously...

[C. G. Estabrook]

Just how a Russian might speak of Stalin, a Frenchman of Napoleon, and 
Englishman (or actually more likely an American) of that old racist Winston 
Churchill...

Don't bother them with the facts -- unless you want to talk to them honestly and 
without condescension.

The "positives" you mention are not, or at best are overstated. Just what we 
would expect from Russians about Stalin, etc.

But I do agree with your implication that AWARE will do better to present an 
"alternative Lincoln," rather than try to correct years of indoctrination with a 
display.  --CGE


Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> What state, country -- planet!!! -- are you living on, Wayne?? (Have you 
> looked at an IL license plate lately??) AWARE would be committing 
> suicide if this was turned into an op to expose Lincoln. I can live w/ 
> the LEGACY of Lincoln, and hope the AWARE decision-makers can as well 
> -- that during his presidency the US stayed one country, and that 
> (eventually) slavery was abolished. Other positives: from modest 
> beginnings to the highest office in the land, powerful speeches, giving 
> his life for his country, etc. Probably other examples can be found 
> and used as well, if AWARE stays positive (for a welcome change).
>  --Jenifer 
>   
> 
> --- On *Wed, 5/20/09, E. Wayne Johnson /<ewj at pigs.ag>/* wrote:
> 
> 
>     From: E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
>     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] July 4th float -- okay, seriously...
>     To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
>     Cc: "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>     Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 11:48 PM
> 
>>     we can get our point across w/o dissing Lincoln
>     Really?
> 
>     His reputation as a good guy is pretty much a myth. 
> 
>     We might as well celebrate Paul Bunyan.
> 
> 
> 
>     On 5/20/2009 10:26 PM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
>>     How 'bout a sweet little girl asking, "Mr Lincoln. What if they
>>     gave a war and no one came??"
>>     And/or our own version of what we hope Lincoln would say if he
>>     were alive today? Distill down his actual quotes (as John
>>     suggested), and/or use a quote or slogan that represents his
>>     reputation as a good guy, e g --
>>     Honesty is the best policy.
>>     Something about negs of war.
>>     Something about positives of peace and freedom.
>>     And also, show examples to the contrary w/ the universal symbol
>>     for NO -- circle w/ slantwise slash.
>>      
>>     It can't possibly have the punch of last year's (wow!), but we can
>>     get our point across w/o dissing Lincoln (or Obama). 
>>      --Jenifer 
>>
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